Hello everyone, im new and this is my 1st post (Applauds)

Ive been reading around the forum and if what i have learned is correct then i will need to do the following to use n20 on my G5:

1. Get a n20 kit (duh....im going zex wet)
2. 2 step colder spark plugs
3. 91+ fuel

And thats about it right? Just wondering where i can get 2 step colder spark plugs and what do they do that reg spark plugs do not?

And is it absoutely necesarry to use 91+ fuel?

Thanks everyone!

 

i dont think the 91 fuel is gonna do anything..


but i'm wondering the same myself. Can I throw on N2O without any other mods? Is it recommended i do catback and intake before N2O?

 

Lots are suggesting getting one of the 2.4 intake manifolds from CED. the manifold on a 2.2 is a two piece glued together to make one. the 2.4 is a single solid molded piece. should be able to take more of a beating and will also open up your airway as well.

non modded 2.2 talked about a loss in torque because they were leaning out, but with N2O you should be fine

 

i totally agree with this post. better safe than sorry. 250 bucks for a manifold to be safer is a price i was very happy to pay.

 

especially after watching that white cobalt blow up his manifold at the track... LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYf5OIQG8XA

 

You're not talking about me, are you?

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Just keep it to a 75 shot or lower and you'll be fine.

 

xm you were one of them werent you? it wasn't just you tho. the 06's were struggling a bit.

 

Ya I've seen that video before.
So what if I did, CAI and Intake Manifold only. Will that let me run a 50-75 shot? without any exhaust mods.


I see N2O as more suited to my needs, I rarely need real power, only when I'm at the track. Turbo is a good idea but too expensive, gives you power (and potential problems) all of the time, whereas N2O is more on demand, only when you need it. Not to mention it's about $700 for the wet kit vs ~$3500+ for the Hahn Turbo kit lol

 

ive talked about that with a few people. I think the N2O is less risky, especially when done right. because you are only putting extra stress on the engine at certain times, not during the everyday drive.

as for what else you would need... honestly... i dont know. but treat your engine like a lung. you are letting it breathe in real deep with the intake and manifold but stifling it with the exhaust. if you upgraded the exhaust manifold, down pipe, and added a cat back then you would really let your car breathe more freely. just don't go too big on the pipes 2.5, maybe 2.75... any bigger and you will actually lose performance.

 

Right, going with a larger exhaust shifts your power band, as does the intake manifold. If you go too big, you shift youself out of phase and you lose power.

My largest issue, money. I'm tryin to add as much power as cheap as possible lol, sounds bad i kno. I'm wondering if I can do CAI, intake manifold, then N2O...and then later on full exhaust. Sounds semi-safe to me

 

I would do the intake and then the exhaust before any thought of changing the intake manifold. If you are really just looking for cheap power, N2O is the way to go.

 

91 octane is a must. you should at least have an exhaust though it is not mandatory.

And you guys will need a window switch also.

 

i would go exhaust intake and header + dp first.....

 

problem is the N2O will be set waayyy back if I have to do headers and full exhaust..
CAI + intake manifold is not an issue, cat-back is pushing it, but header and dp just kills the deal. Sure it would be smart to do full bolt ons before N2O, but is it neccessary? idk


You for sure would need 91+? What would happen if you did this on 87? Crap, if you need 91 for N2O, i need a way to drain gas easily then...damn that sucks. No way to run on 87?

 

you should invest in an LSJ exhaust manifold and dp. Cheap and flows very well.

YES you NEED to run 91 or higher. I always run 91 now just incase someone wants to run. It sucks to have to say, " give me 2 days to filter out this 87 and Ill walk you!"

 

are you crazy? you have to run high octane fuel with nitrous or else i is pointless. do you know how nitrous works? im not trying to bust you or anything man i just don't want anyone to be misinformed.

i've ran my ca with stock exhaust and just an intake the whole time and never had a problem with power. infact i prety much ran with a stock '05 mustang GT (pulled on me past 70mph, but like i said stock exhaust). If you get an exhaust...header back....even better. also, running larger piping with nitrous or F/I setups is better. without one of those, you will lose power, but once you hit that button....you will see what i'm talking about. im actually thinking about reinstalling mines again and maybe do a how-to. this time im doing header back, 2.4 intake manifold, and cam gears. i'm running stock rims but i have michelin pilot tires, so i don't have to worry too much about traction.

 

don't get me confused with a mechanic of any sorts..i know engine basics, and car maintence, thats about it. im just a driver really

but i thought the nitrous let you burn more fuel by adding more colder and more air to the engine, so how would this make you need to run a higher octane? can you mix different octane fuels, say u got 1/4 tank of 87 and u put a 1/4 tank of 91+. i think i can actually get 93 and like 97 (they call it racing fuel, i think its 97) around here, but its expensive.

 

dude if you want to run n2o youll have to suck it up and dish out the extra bucks.

 

LOL..i knew there was a catch. Turbo vs N2O sounds like a no-brainer...until u see the 91+ octane..can i get a third opinion, is it absolutely Needed?

edit: where's that guy that blew up his manifold..i'd take his advice, that cobalt was MEAN, until the plastic manifold killed his hood ;(

 

The plastic manifold probably saved the rest of his engine though. The manifold is easy enough to replace.

 

some guy told me to switch to the 2.4 metal manifold??? lol
what happened to him? backfire? is this a common issue? and how or why did it happen?

 

it happened becuase he was probably reving with the nitrous activated or something and it pooled with nitrous or fuel. if you have a window switch and a tps to only activate when at full throttle then you'll be perfectly safe. i was running my nitrous for like a year with no problems. 91+ octane just burns differently and nitrous adds more air to the mix added with better octane fuel and more fuel in a wet kit setup = more hp.

 

his best was a 14.69 and he ran a 16.43 stock...does that sound right? i would have thought he would of been able to run low 14s? wonder what size shot he was using. I'm looking to use either 50 or maybe 75. here is the other problem, there are no local places that will refill the N2O bottle..so what are my options?

Feright...I just realized that was you..didn't you have a blue Ion? Remember me from awhile ago, I asked you about N2O once before

 

Honestly, I want to question something

Everyone says get 91 octane or higher

But Octane ratings is due to resist from detonation

What causes detonation?

- Lean fuel mixtures
- Ignition problems
- Excessive Heat

1. If he's doing a wet kit properly, lean isn't going to be a issue
2. I'm assuming that he has no ignition problems

#3 is the thing about nitrous. Nitrous injection LOWERS combustion chamber temperatures a great deal.

So someone tell me why exactly he would need a higher octane if all 3 things are accounted for?

Also note: Octane Ratings has nothing to do with power and has nothing to do with quality of burn, only resistance to detonation (or knocking).

To the original poster, check NGK for spark plugs. They make a 1 step colder plug for the L61 (I know this for sure). That's good enough if you truely wanted to do that.

 

woot woot, exactly what I'm sayin! thanks Adam