knocking on n20....
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What are you guys talking about?
I am running a wet 75 shot on a tuned LSJ. Retarding timing and making sure there's no knock..
Just because I have questions doesn't mean I'm "doing it the cheap way"
I've invested lots of money into this and I have several safety precautions and features included.
You guys probably have the least bit idea what my setup exactly is.
I am running a wet 75 shot on a tuned LSJ. Retarding timing and making sure there's no knock..
Just because I have questions doesn't mean I'm "doing it the cheap way"
I've invested lots of money into this and I have several safety precautions and features included.
You guys probably have the least bit idea what my setup exactly is.
What are you guys talking about?
I am running a wet 75 shot on a tuned LSJ. Retarding timing and making sure there's no knock..
Just because I have questions doesn't mean I'm "doing it the cheap way"
I've invested lots of money into this and I have several safety precautions and features included.
You guys probably have the least bit idea what my setup exactly is.
I am running a wet 75 shot on a tuned LSJ. Retarding timing and making sure there's no knock..
Just because I have questions doesn't mean I'm "doing it the cheap way"
I've invested lots of money into this and I have several safety precautions and features included.
You guys probably have the least bit idea what my setup exactly is.
not to mention you should never be tuning for nitrous without a wideband
hell even tuning for the 2.9 pulley on 42s it's on shouldn't be done without a wideband.. and you're saying you didn't want to spend the money to buy 60's. again ... doing it the cheap way
questions aren't a problem it's how we all learn.. bitching about things you NEED to do to save your motor and don't spend hundreds of dollars if not thousands to rebuild it because you didn't do it right the first time.. THAT is the problem... you're the one that chose this route.. don't complain because it costs money to be right. IN MY opinion.. Do it right or don't do it at all
you were bitching about spending 11 bux on a new nitrous jet.. Whether you admit it or not you're being a cheap ass lol
not to mention you should never be tuning for nitrous without a wideband
hell even tuning for the 2.9 pulley on 42s it's on shouldn't be done without a wideband.. And you're saying you didn't want to spend the money to buy 60's. Again ... Doing it the cheap way
questions aren't a problem it's how we all learn.. Bitching about things you need to do to save your motor and don't spend hundreds of dollars if not thousands to rebuild it because you didn't do it right the first time.. That is the problem... You're the one that chose this route.. Don't complain because it costs money to be right. In my opinion.. Do it right or don't do it at all
not to mention you should never be tuning for nitrous without a wideband
hell even tuning for the 2.9 pulley on 42s it's on shouldn't be done without a wideband.. And you're saying you didn't want to spend the money to buy 60's. Again ... Doing it the cheap way
questions aren't a problem it's how we all learn.. Bitching about things you need to do to save your motor and don't spend hundreds of dollars if not thousands to rebuild it because you didn't do it right the first time.. That is the problem... You're the one that chose this route.. Don't complain because it costs money to be right. In my opinion.. Do it right or don't do it at all
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tuning helps a whole lot and even doing it sort of ghetto and tuning right you can get away with it. **** i have less than $2,000 in my whole car including the gauges and everything inside and out other than tires and have well over 300whp on the spray and drive it every day. it's all in the tune. it depends if you buy parts new or used. also how long you take and spend the time to think about your build and wait till you can get the best possible price on something.
Power mods:
1. 60lb injectors $200
2. 2.80 pulley $50
3. filter on stock modded stock airbox $20
4. big cx h/e (from ebay) $150
5. nos sniper wet kit $285 (you can now buy the whole kit for $279.99 Shipped on Ebay!)
6. 1step colder plugs $6
7. italian joe's clear image automotive's Header and 3" catless dp switched to a 3" catted dp $300
Gauges:
1. dynotune's nitrous pressure gauge $25
2. aem wideband uego $200
Clutch:
1. Phoenix stage3 6 puck clutch $393.14 (came with throw out bearing)
Total Money Spent= Less than $2,000
Even adding the bottle warmer ($100 Dollars from dynotune.com) along with the misc. + rounding up those numbers in parts I am still under $2k in all parts.
Other Modifications:
None! Everything else on this car is stock. Stock cat-back, stock motor mounts, stock everything. Nothing else has been upgraded or done.
How did I pay so little for these parts?:
Some of the prices may vary and remember in this economy you can call up sites and make them drop there prices! These are the prices I paid for all these modifications. Also, I will be installing all of them myself.
Last edited by BillyBboy; Sep 3, 2009 at 01:39 AM.
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I believe I am cheap, quick (can't say fast b/c everyone has a different version of the word fast in there mind), and reliable.
tuning helps a whole lot and even doing it sort of ghetto and tuning right you can get away with it. **** i have less than $2,000 in my whole car including the gauges and everything inside and out other than tires and have well over 300whp on the spray and drive it every day. it's all in the tune. it depends if you buy parts new or used. also how long you take and spend the time to think about your build and wait till you can get the best possible price on something.
Power mods:
1. 60lb injectors $171
2. 2.80 pulley $49
3. filter on stock modded stock airbox $19
4. big cx h/e (from ebay) $149
5. nos sniper wet kit $285 (you can now buy the whole kit for $279.99 Shipped on Ebay!)
6. 1step colder plugs $6
7. italian joe's clear image automotive's Header and 3" catless dp switched to a 3" catted dp $300
Gauges:
1. dynotune's nitrous pressure gauge $25
2. aem wideband uego $199
Clutch:
1. Phoenix stage3 6 puck clutch $393.14 (came with throw out bearing)
Total Money Spent= Less than $2,000
Even adding the bottle warmer ($99 Dollars from dynotune.com) along with the misc. + rounding up those numbers in parts I am still under $2k in all parts.
Other Modifications:
None! Everything else on this car is stock. Stock cat-back, stock motor mounts, stock everything. Nothing else has been upgraded or done.
How did I pay so little for these parts?:
Some of the prices may vary and remember in this economy you can call up sites and make them drop there prices! These are the prices I paid for all these modifications. Also, I will be installing all of them myself.
tuning helps a whole lot and even doing it sort of ghetto and tuning right you can get away with it. **** i have less than $2,000 in my whole car including the gauges and everything inside and out other than tires and have well over 300whp on the spray and drive it every day. it's all in the tune. it depends if you buy parts new or used. also how long you take and spend the time to think about your build and wait till you can get the best possible price on something.
Power mods:
1. 60lb injectors $171
2. 2.80 pulley $49
3. filter on stock modded stock airbox $19
4. big cx h/e (from ebay) $149
5. nos sniper wet kit $285 (you can now buy the whole kit for $279.99 Shipped on Ebay!)
6. 1step colder plugs $6
7. italian joe's clear image automotive's Header and 3" catless dp switched to a 3" catted dp $300
Gauges:
1. dynotune's nitrous pressure gauge $25
2. aem wideband uego $199
Clutch:
1. Phoenix stage3 6 puck clutch $393.14 (came with throw out bearing)
Total Money Spent= Less than $2,000
Even adding the bottle warmer ($99 Dollars from dynotune.com) along with the misc. + rounding up those numbers in parts I am still under $2k in all parts.
Other Modifications:
None! Everything else on this car is stock. Stock cat-back, stock motor mounts, stock everything. Nothing else has been upgraded or done.
How did I pay so little for these parts?:
Some of the prices may vary and remember in this economy you can call up sites and make them drop there prices! These are the prices I paid for all these modifications. Also, I will be installing all of them myself.
How big of a shot are you running?
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I love people who put nitrous on there car yet have NO CLUE how it works.
You are running a wet kit. That means it ADDS FUEL FOR YOU. Guess what that means??? If your injectors are running @ around 74 % duty cycle then when you add a 75 wet shot guess what??? They will still be running at around 74 % duty cycle.
The only thing you might want to be worried about is your fuel pump.
Your getting knock retard because you probably have some shitty plugs in there that are not gapped correctly, You are probably also running too small of a pulley for your supporting mods resulting in boost stack.
Its funny, none of the SS/SC guys realize how shitty there car is running until they throw it on the dyno and they have full exhaust and a 2.8 and they make like 235-240WHP with 10* of knock retard.
You are running a wet kit. That means it ADDS FUEL FOR YOU. Guess what that means??? If your injectors are running @ around 74 % duty cycle then when you add a 75 wet shot guess what??? They will still be running at around 74 % duty cycle.
The only thing you might want to be worried about is your fuel pump.
Your getting knock retard because you probably have some shitty plugs in there that are not gapped correctly, You are probably also running too small of a pulley for your supporting mods resulting in boost stack.
Its funny, none of the SS/SC guys realize how shitty there car is running until they throw it on the dyno and they have full exhaust and a 2.8 and they make like 235-240WHP with 10* of knock retard.
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yes... notice i am trying to help the guy no hassle anyone. ps. your car and mine look very similar. lol
ugh... my car with stg2 map on 60lb injectors with afr 10.4 with 19degree's of timing hitting knock on low bottle temp made 309whp/321torque on a mustang dyno. btw- i was on stock exhaust with a header + 3" dp with regular cat....
ps. we all have to start somewhere. he is just trying to learn. give him a break.
I love people who put nitrous on there car yet have NO CLUE how it works.
You are running a wet kit. That means it ADDS FUEL FOR YOU. Guess what that means??? If your injectors are running @ around 74 % duty cycle then when you add a 75 wet shot guess what??? They will still be running at around 74 % duty cycle.
The only thing you might want to be worried about is your fuel pump.
Your getting knock retard because you probably have some shitty plugs in there that are not gapped correctly, You are probably also running too small of a pulley for your supporting mods resulting in boost stack.
Its funny, none of the SS/SC guys realize how shitty there car is running until they throw it on the dyno and they have full exhaust and a 2.8 and they make like 235-240WHP with 10* of knock retard.
You are running a wet kit. That means it ADDS FUEL FOR YOU. Guess what that means??? If your injectors are running @ around 74 % duty cycle then when you add a 75 wet shot guess what??? They will still be running at around 74 % duty cycle.
The only thing you might want to be worried about is your fuel pump.
Your getting knock retard because you probably have some shitty plugs in there that are not gapped correctly, You are probably also running too small of a pulley for your supporting mods resulting in boost stack.
Its funny, none of the SS/SC guys realize how shitty there car is running until they throw it on the dyno and they have full exhaust and a 2.8 and they make like 235-240WHP with 10* of knock retard.
ps. we all have to start somewhere. he is just trying to learn. give him a break.
Last edited by BillyBboy; Sep 3, 2009 at 01:46 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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butt buddies lol
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yes... notice i am trying to help the guy no hassle anyone. ps. your car and mine look very similar. lol
ugh... my car with stg2 map on 60lb injectors with afr 10.4 with 19degree's of timing hitting knock on low bottle temp made 309whp/321torque on a mustang dyno. btw- i was on stock exhaust with a header + 3" dp with regular cat....
ps. we all have to start somewhere. he is just trying to learn. give him a break.
ugh... my car with stg2 map on 60lb injectors with afr 10.4 with 19degree's of timing hitting knock on low bottle temp made 309whp/321torque on a mustang dyno. btw- i was on stock exhaust with a header + 3" dp with regular cat....
ps. we all have to start somewhere. he is just trying to learn. give him a break.
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you can go have fun guess how much i make off the spray.
remember mustang dyno numbers. that's the lowest reading dyno i could find in my area. i've been to 2 other dyno's and woah i put down supper high numbers on a dyno jet. an easy 30whp more.
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Edit Nvmnd saw you were talking to bboy the slowbalt threw me off.
On a mustang dyno as well. Most Cobalts I see that are put on mustang dynos actually dyno the opposite of how they should dyno on a true mustang dyno.
The numbers for a Cobalt on a Mustang for some reason are always higher then a Dynojet.
SO 249 WHP on a Mustang is like 230 on a Dynojet.
The numbers for a Cobalt on a Mustang for some reason are always higher then a Dynojet.
SO 249 WHP on a Mustang is like 230 on a Dynojet.
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Edit Nvmnd saw you were talking to bboy the slowbalt threw me off.
On a mustang dyno as well. Most Cobalts I see that are put on mustang dynos actually dyno the opposite of how they should dyno on a true mustang dyno.
The numbers for a Cobalt on a Mustang for some reason are always higher then a Dynojet.
SO 249 WHP on a Mustang is like 230 on a Dynojet.
On a mustang dyno as well. Most Cobalts I see that are put on mustang dynos actually dyno the opposite of how they should dyno on a true mustang dyno.
The numbers for a Cobalt on a Mustang for some reason are always higher then a Dynojet.
SO 249 WHP on a Mustang is like 230 on a Dynojet.
i can post up my numbers on a 45shot on the dynojet that i put out 360whp+ now. it also depends on bottle temp
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno-results-170/dyno-tomorrow-182347/
Stock TC on a Mustang dyno, dyno's 250WHP and 277 TQ.
So inflated.
Stock TC on a Mustang dyno, dyno's 250WHP and 277 TQ.
So inflated.