Anybody know what the whp rating is for gm stage 3+ 50 shot of nitrous?

 

The rating = more than the motor or axles can safely hold, lol


But with those mods alone you should be north of 300

 

ziner put down like 298whp I think with a 50shot.

 

Thanks for the bad news man, you shattered my hope. Guess I have to save up for pistons and axles first.

One more question can you use the nitrous in a 100 octane mode or is it just for 93oct. mode?

 

those are good numbers

ljavy you should shoot a 30 shot or 25 shot lil sneaky pete under the seat

 

You think it's possible to get 320+ out of the stage 3 base tune plus nitrous?

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ht=2.8+nitrous

 

So I guess that means no then.

 

Axles are a must and I highly recommed them. I did a how-to as well so lemme know if you have any questions on them

But if you want the car to last for a long time than I would go with either stg 3 or nitrous, but not both until you can pistons and headstuds at a minimum

HTH

 

You could be around 310whp with a 75 shot and 300wtq.

 

You think it would be safe to up the 50shot to a 60 shot with the stage 3 tune?

 

I am curious as to where half of you who don't have the stage 3 kit with Nitrous installed are getting half of your incorrect data?

Let me cover some myths for you:

Stage 3 is not warrantied = FALSE I have the stage 3 and Nitrous both installed by my dealership and it is covered. Not sure who started this whole "story" but they were wrong. Off-road kit is implied because having nitrous installed in your car is not legal in 50 states and the A/C as something they took off to make it "off road" is also a bunch of crap. It is not on there because they simply did not have enough room to put all the information on the pcm..so hopes of installing your AC back with HP tuners is out the window...for AC...simply reconnect your stage 2 pcm...wow...thats hard.

Clutches can't hold it = FALSE Clutches in our cars are rated at 320 WHP. It's the people who say they can drive a clutch...but really can't who have the issues. (no offense guys)

Axles will break because they are not strong enough = FALSE Your axles are good to 350ft/lbs...its the guys who are hopping all over the place and don't let off the gas or don't understand the concept of "feathering" the gas that typically have issues. Reason number two for this...YOUR CAR IS NOT A DRAG CAR!!!!! STOP DRAGGIN YOUR CAR! They are designed for autocrossing. Not your local quartermile track. If you want to do that yes...you will need good axles but the ones on your car are fine.

Injectors can't handle stage 3 and nitrous = FALSE This is another miracle of science. The master mechanics at GM about laughed Themselves into a coma on this one...the ones only reply..."right...thats why GM doesn't give you bigger injectors and they warranty your car...you have been chating in forums too much where too much speculation is taking place."

You can not run higher that 7500 RPMS on stock internals or run the nitrous over 7000 RPMS = TRUE This is stated right in the directions of the kit install and the mechanic made an effort to point this out to me.


So to make a long story short..the only problem I have had thus far with my stage 3 kit and nitrous..is where to mount the activation switch.

 

Do you have any dyno numbers? Just curious. You make the Stage 3 kit sound a lot more appealing. I hope you know what your talking about. I've always had the suspicion that slipping clutches and broken axles were the result of driver error, not poor design/quality, but I've never had the experience or the ***** to say so (on this forum at least). There are just things that are bad for cars, and wheel hop is one of them.

 

I hate to nitpick your post, but those are some pretty empty points youre making without some sort of proof.

"I have the stage 3 and Nitrous both installed by my dealership and it is covered"

Show us a statement from GM that says this. Your dealership can choose to cover it, but not everyone elses will. We need something that would go over the dealerships head aka a written statement from GM saying its warrantied (and im not talkin just the stage 3 parts here).

"Clutches in our cars are rated at 320 WHP"
"Your axles are good to 350ft/lbs"
Documentation on these please.

 

agree on docs because in the lsj build book trying to achieve 300 hp the clutch needs to be replaced to handle that amount of power.

 

one of the best posts i have seen in months! seriously. repped

 

I guess my proof is running my car without issues, on top of my mechanics word and my warrantied parts.

I guess I could ask the same of you? Where is your proof that it isn't besides the guys snappign them who can claim to drive? Your question is completely two sided.




Let me get this straight. You will believe all the negatives about broken axles, Duty cycles, clutches, but you don't believe someone telling you they will warranty the stage 3 kit? As far as MY dealership covering it...I have the kit in my car my friend...do you? How about you show me where it states in the kit that it IS warrantied? How about getting a pair and asking your dealership to show you where it shows you that it's not? You know what..they can't...so if you want to let them tell you that it's not covered thats cool. YOU can.
If you want proof of me having it...or that it is covered...pm me..I will give you the telephone number.

Rather than try explaining it to you...call your dealership...ask the gentleman the specs on the parts you just listed and he will tell you. Hence why GM WILL cover them with a 300 horsepower stage kit.


It's funny

Anything bad thats said is like "oh yeah I heard that" and it spreads like herpes.

But when someone tries to give their experiences and knowledge...you get...LIARRRRRR LIARRRR PROVE IT LIARRRR. It's funny.

Believe me or don't...it's up to you. But if you want proof...let me know I will give you te number to my dealership...but that offer extends to everyone but you. Before I offer you anything I ask for proof that what I said is wrong...like a statement from gm that its not covered...something besides ramblings of people on this site. so, you go find it...I will wait right here for you. And before you run to intense or CA..remember..they would love for you to purchase 400 dollar axles from them...so of course our axles are only good to 100 hp didn't you know?

They are running everything EXTREMELY safe...300 horse motor is pushing a 320 max. Especially when you have idiot burning out their clutches with 205 hp. Its not the horse...it's the driver.

I'm sorry, but someone had to say it guys.

 

OWNAGE, and this is all true info as i have a friend in my hood that has this same setup and it is warrantied by the dealership!! nothing but good info coming from FNfast!!

 

On another note:

when you get your stage 3 kit...you will need an extra foot of raidator tubing and two T fittings (they don't come with the kit).

You can also order an extra coolant res. tank for the left hand side of your car due to the dual pass. intercooler this is option (as you will see in your directions) and acts as an overflow...I can get the part number for those who want it.

 

I doubt it, unless you have 100 octane gas.

GM did 368 with 100 shot and the LSJ 300 HP build up.

I am dynoing again with my new nitrous plate and a 75 shot.

 

kinda off topic but i asked my service advisor about putting a billet flow 2.9 in pulley since thats whats on the stage 3 gm he said it would still warranty the everything but the pulley any one else done this, if this is true then im gonna do the rest of gms stage3

 

Thank for the info man, but im only ordering the pcm for now.
BTW how much whp are you making, and what kind of nitrous kit are you running?

 

I have no proof to not believe that gm stage 3 isnt covered by warranty, i just wanna know how the heck is your dealer warranty your car runing nitrous threw it, or how your pistons are holding up? Also my friend did NOT have wheel hop and snaped his axles, he had bwoody full motor mounts, and traction bars, and if you dont think the cobalt is a drag-car, or isnt made for it, why use nitrous?

 

Did you turn off pms & email so I wouldnt pm you?

I dont know where you got your attitude but I think you need to stick it back where it came from.

I didnt call you out as a liar. I said I want documented proof of the things you said. You want me to go track it down? Fine. I'll call my dealer tomorrow.

I asked you nicely for the proof because anybody can throw around numbers on this site and say theyre true. I have NO idea why you came back like a total ******* and tried to make me look like the jerk.

As for your dealership installing and warranting your stage 3. GREAT FOR YOU.

MY dealership wont install stage 2, and threatened to void my buddys warranty if he came back for the flash with it installed. Thats the reason I asked you NICELY if you had any documentation to prove this. You know, to help me out.

Guess some people would rather argue than help out.

 

Let me know what they say when you fry a pistons, and oil is shooting everywhere, are they really going to be like ok warranty, its all covered, or are they going to say ABUSE?