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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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2 red SS/SC's from CT claiming 300+whp on stock blower and no nitrous

Can you guys either provide dyno charts or race someone on video. I had to listen to you both going on and on and on during a few different occations. I'd even be willing to give it a rip in the stockish RL and at least baseline these rediculous claims against that.

Let me know if you're interested in a race. You don't have to race me, you can race anything you want. I just want some sort of evidence of these out rageous power claims.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Sounds like a load. Race them in your Eclipse.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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they arent that ridiculous, Maxing out the blower with a 2.5 meth tuning all bolt ons can get u close to 300whp . Now im not saying these guys were telling the truth but it is possible.

294whp LSJ - http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...24012d7102.htm

CSS beating a 298whp srt4 - http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...f300790eea.htm
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Note that the second video had an extreme ported blower with 2.6" pulley, 60# injectors, full 3" catless exhaust, pacesetter header, K&N Intake, 2 range colder plugs, Dual pass IC, Cobra HE, and an all power, no safety tune (hence why it broke a ringland).
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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lol you can put close to 300 down in the 2.4 with stock internals just a hahn turbo kit...
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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lol you can put close to 300 down in the 2.4 with stock internals just a hahn turbo kit...
oh boy... that was even necessary ... we're talking about the sc ... i mean a 2.4 has put down just over 400WHP on a stock solstice but that's not the motor we're talking about ...

on topic:

300 WHP in an lsj is possible with meth kit and a kickass tune with with a 2.5in pulley, ported blower, full exhaust ... not hard at all on race gas... but really who DD's on race gas...i can see 285 but 300 is pushing it for most. however like I said if they have a bitching tune then that can change everything.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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ouch, i was just simply stating. considering they are 205 stock and we have some slack to make up... chill pill
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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I think Blown 4-banger was on pump gas in that video.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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perhaps
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fbaero10
ouch, i was just simply stating. considering they are 205 stock and we have some slack to make up... chill pill
didn't mean to get on your case.. just lately flame feasts seem to be starting at the drop of a hat so I was trying to keep it on topic no offense/ harm meant
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
didn't mean to get on your case.. just lately flame feasts seem to be starting at the drop of a hat so I was trying to keep it on topic no offense/ harm meant
its cool, im just a lil on the edge cause it is my birthday and i have to ****** work
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fbaero10
its cool, im just a lil on the edge cause it is my birthday and i have to ****** work
hahah OUCH... and people said 07-07-07 was supposed to be lucky... it's saturday, your birfday and you still have to work... i'm pretty sure thats not lucky at all
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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hey i didnt play the lottery yet today everything comes back 10 fold
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fbaero10
hey i didnt play the lottery yet today everything comes back 10 fold
Promise to buy me a vette if u win? Good luck and happy birthday!
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fbaero10
hey i didnt play the lottery yet today everything comes back 10 fold
LOL... wtf is up with the site today? i'm not seeing half of the buttons.. they're just text...
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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nice... I dunno, best I ever did with my car on pump was 296whp and that was with a non ported blower, c/a header, 3" d.p. w/ highflow cat and a 3" side exit exhaust, 2.55 pulley, methanol. I don't really see making too much more than that since the stock blower is waaaayyy out of it's efficiency range at that point and just stealing power at that point.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by glockglade
Promise to buy me a vette if u win? Good luck and happy birthday!
haha yep just cause you do autocross
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 03:43 AM
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nice... I dunno, best I ever did with my car on pump was 296whp and that was with a non ported blower, c/a header, 3" d.p. w/ highflow cat and a 3" side exit exhaust, 2.55 pulley, methanol. I don't really see making too much more than that since the stock blower is waaaayyy out of it's efficiency range at that point and just stealing power at that point.
296 is pretty solid. This kid was claiming 306, other kid was claiming 320+.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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306 might be possible, but 320 plus without cams or headwork or nitrous seems a bit far fetched
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
306 might be possible, but 320 plus without cams or headwork or nitrous seems a bit far fetched
agreed, however if it is true make him come on this site and tell how he did it please. maybe they could be talking crank hp?
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probably.... I mean I have everything dialed in on my car... 2.55 pulley (20.50 psi) and methanol injection with 25 degrees of timing from mid range all the way to the top.... and a full open exhaust, I really don't see too much more coming out of it. Specially since I live just a few feet above sea level too.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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agreed, however if it is true make him come on this site and tell how he did it please. maybe they could be talking crank hp?
Kind of surprised they aren't on here already. I'll see if I can find them this weekend.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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If you cracked open the engine, did a full blue print rebuild, ported/honed/polished the head to crazy levels, full race valvetrain that can support 8k redline safely (meaning everything is good to 8.5k at the least), forged pistons, high strength rods, new crank shaft spin stabilized to ~15k, neutral balance shafts, cam that are more aggressive and move the power band up a grand or so in the rpms (so your still making power at 8k), high quality free flowing full exhaust with no cat, meth injection, ~2.9 (revs the SC up to about the same level as a 2.55" w/ 7k redline), dual pass heat extractor, aftercooler surge tank, second dual pass exchanger, porting/honing/polishing on the SC, all pulleys replaced with lightweight versions, a lightweight flywheel, high strength axles to not snap like twigs, full mounts, cabs, hella sticky tires, and a hell'acious tune, your going to see some serious power.

Of course, that is some crazy money and you would be better served by moving to a twinscrew or the 1.32l TVS if you want to stay supercharged.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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You might want to add a trans to that also.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by InfinityzeN
If you cracked open the engine, did a full blue print rebuild, ported/honed/polished the head to crazy levels, full race valvetrain that can support 8k redline safely (meaning everything is good to 8.5k at the least), forged pistons, high strength rods, new crank shaft spin stabilized to ~15k, neutral balance shafts, cam that are more aggressive and move the power band up a grand or so in the rpms (so your still making power at 8k), high quality free flowing full exhaust with no cat, meth injection, ~2.9 (revs the SC up to about the same level as a 2.55" w/ 7k redline), dual pass heat extractor, aftercooler surge tank, second dual pass exchanger, porting/honing/polishing on the SC, all pulleys replaced with lightweight versions, a lightweight flywheel, high strength axles to not snap like twigs, full mounts, cabs, hella sticky tires, and a hell'acious tune, your going to see some serious power.

Of course, that is some crazy money and you would be better served by moving to a twinscrew or the 1.32l TVS if you want to stay supercharged.
I still don't see it happening. The blower is limited to a certain amount of airflow. Increasing the engine's breathing ability isn't helping the blower make any more power if it's already maxed out. If anything you'll just make the same power at lower boost.
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