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That sucks
What has worked for me in the past is to show up at court, admit you were wrong and be willing to pay the fine but ask for no points because you need a clean driving record for work.
Good luck
What has worked for me in the past is to show up at court, admit you were wrong and be willing to pay the fine but ask for no points because you need a clean driving record for work.
Good luck
Any tips for beating a "running a red light" offense? At least that's what I think it is. Pittsburgh cop only checked "traffic-control signals" -- Section 3112, Sub section a 31.
Light turned yellow when I was like 15 feet from the intersection. Red as my ass end cleared the intersection. I didn't want to slam on the brakes, and there wasn't any one out, anyway (happened 20 mins ago).
Cop was a *****. "What's YELLOW mean?"
"Slow down," says I.
"Why didn't you?"
"Cause I didn't want to slam on my brakes." Didn't say anything else.
Fine's $107. I just don't want the damn points....2 of em. Figure I'll send in the check, plead not guilty, cancel my court date afternoon before, morning of. Reschedule, and hope the cop doesn't show
Light turned yellow when I was like 15 feet from the intersection. Red as my ass end cleared the intersection. I didn't want to slam on the brakes, and there wasn't any one out, anyway (happened 20 mins ago).
Cop was a *****. "What's YELLOW mean?"
"Slow down," says I.
"Why didn't you?"
"Cause I didn't want to slam on my brakes." Didn't say anything else.
Fine's $107. I just don't want the damn points....2 of em. Figure I'll send in the check, plead not guilty, cancel my court date afternoon before, morning of. Reschedule, and hope the cop doesn't show
Don't cancel that close to the court date, they don't have to give you a continuance. I believe you have to make the request either 7 or 14 days in advance.
^^^^Best way to handle it. Even when I've had ***** ass cops and bogus tickets this has worked. All they want is a conviction, all you want is to keep points off your license. Everybody wins.
Everytime I've been in court it's been the opposite. They'll take the cop's word over anything else. Last bitch I had to go before was too busy inviting the cop and his family to her house for Thanksgiving (seriously...she was giving him directions to her house while I'm standing there waiting for my hearing to start) to pay any attention to anything else. She only grudgingly let the two defendants before me get a word in after the cops gave their stories before finding them guilty.
interesting because ive seen that method done 3x before when waiting for my traffic ticket case.
burden of proof is on them, and honestly, a red light ticket is one of the most difficult to prove.
OK, so you've seen it done 3 times, but what did you use then if that defense works so well?
Take everything you can with you to court. Briefcase, laptop, enlarged photos, everything.
Basically it's just a mind game till you actually get in front of the judge. The day I went in, they were just bringing people in and finding everyone guilty. My case was the only one that the officer even asked the judge to make a deal with. You need to make them think that you've got solid proof they're wrong. Even if you don't, keep up appearances. Remember, all they want is a conviction, so if you can make them think you stand a good shot at an acquittal, they'll be a lot more willing to deal.
Which ive used misc defenses, win some lose some. Typically when i lost, I just appealled it, took it downtown, and pled guilty to 5 over $35 fine
Yeah but then you get fucked royally when it comes to insurance. If there's no points involved, I'll usually just pay it and be done with it. If there's points, you better believe I'm gonna fight it.
first i got onto the turnpike at new stanton, and got pulled over before irwin for doing 81 in a 65. then traffic was backed up at churchill until the tubes. and then after i got off at the 3B exit i took the first left and that took me past the hospital back to the parkway. in the end, after going thru downtown, i ended getting there ten minutes late but i did find i nice little place to park the bike behind thaw hall. after that the ride to cal sucked. its just going to be a long semster. pitts fine, but the drive sucks.


