New Rotated Trans Mounts
11-15-2008, 12:24 PM
#1
New Rotated Trans Mounts
These new mounts rotate the engine and trans to align the axles. This does two things, it eliminates wheel hop and it helps your axles/trans case survive. Unlike poly mounts these are far less harsh. You will have 3 options when ordering.
Stage 1 will use a rotated front mount with a spacer under the stock rear mount. This is for sub 300whp cars. There will be no vibrations from the mounts.
Stage 2 will be the same as stage 1 but it will use a lnf rear mount with spacer inplace of the lsj mount.
stage 3 will use both a front and back rotated mount setup and still use the spacer. This is for the avid drag racer, these will have slightly more vibration then stock but nothing close to poly.
Pricing
stage 1.
stage 2.
stage 3.
There will also be a core charge on these of $100 a mount. These have to be sold installed as shown because the mounts are precisely clocked.
Rear mount
Both mounts with spacer
Both mounts with spacer under mount
These will be ready to ship for NOV.24
Stage 1 will use a rotated front mount with a spacer under the stock rear mount. This is for sub 300whp cars. There will be no vibrations from the mounts.
Stage 2 will be the same as stage 1 but it will use a lnf rear mount with spacer inplace of the lsj mount.
stage 3 will use both a front and back rotated mount setup and still use the spacer. This is for the avid drag racer, these will have slightly more vibration then stock but nothing close to poly.
Pricing
stage 1.
stage 2.
stage 3.
There will also be a core charge on these of $100 a mount. These have to be sold installed as shown because the mounts are precisely clocked.
Rear mount
Both mounts with spacer
Both mounts with spacer under mount
These will be ready to ship for NOV.24
Last edited by Josh@ottp; 02-17-2009 at 11:12 PM.
11-15-2008, 12:44 PM
#7
I've had these mounts in my car for a months now, and no other traction modification out there can compair to them. At my shop I now have a nice big circle laid out rubber that I'm quite proud of and I know for a fact would not be possible without them. Having been modifing my '04 Redline since well before the majority of people had any idea it existed, I've tried just about everything, so, I know far better than most what is out there and how well it works. This is the BEST solution to wheel hop out there. Hands down. It should be, as these cars are the guys GM had address the problem on the Cobalt Cup Race cars, afterall. John's knowledge and Josh's backing make for a easy buy from a great group of guys.
Thus my rating is A+
Thus my rating is A+
11-15-2008, 12:53 PM
#9
here is a vid of the mounts installed with a 4k launch on 235 wide tires, had i still been using my poli mounts i would most likely have broken something at my power levels.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/w...ion_199247.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/w...ion_199247.htm
11-15-2008, 01:08 PM
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you guys keep coming out with new stuff that actually works. I'll wait for these to come out and it should be awesome if they actually cut down on the vibes throughout the car. Paul, you need to hurry up and tell me about these so I can get a set next month.
11-15-2008, 01:09 PM
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if you look at the mounts like everyone said the spacer in the middle is not centered it's offset, what it does is rotates the tranny and motor so the differential is better aligned with the wheel hub. another great thing about these is the vibrations inside the car are significantly reduced from the poli mounts. i have run both.
11-15-2008, 01:10 PM
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11-15-2008, 01:12 PM
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ahhhhh ok i see now so the front one is off set... so your only doing the 2 mounts.. the top mount doesn't get affected by the movement?
it worries about the amount of power those lower control arm bushings can handle... i see those things break everyday at work
but the kit deff looks pretty well made.. 300+ tho seems a little steep but deff seems to be something useful for sure
it worries about the amount of power those lower control arm bushings can handle... i see those things break everyday at work
but the kit deff looks pretty well made.. 300+ tho seems a little steep but deff seems to be something useful for sure
11-15-2008, 01:27 PM
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so with stage 1 is it just a front mount and the spacer for the rear mount??? what is the difference between an lsj rear mount and an lnf mount??? i do like the fact that your using a smaller solid rubber bushing instead of poly. is that actualy a control arm bushing??? if so i guess that works great as if its ever damaged the bushing isnt hard to get.
ive been loking at rotating the engine by building different mount brackets, i never thought of doing it this way as i dont have the machining capabilities to do that. my only concern is what about the upper mounts??? will the upper engine mount and tranny mount survive being twisted??? what about aftermarket upper mounts??? with a urethane upper mount unable to twist, it this going to put too much stress on the mount brakets or the tranny case???
one other question, how much difference does this make with the height of the axle off a given point??? im interested to know how much closer my driveline angle will be to what it was stock.
i myself arent concerned about the bushings breaking. ive used controll arm bushings for mounts before. in this application the bushing always have a load across the whole bushing. in a controll arm they have a lot of twisting forces on them and thats why they rip.
ive been loking at rotating the engine by building different mount brackets, i never thought of doing it this way as i dont have the machining capabilities to do that. my only concern is what about the upper mounts??? will the upper engine mount and tranny mount survive being twisted??? what about aftermarket upper mounts??? with a urethane upper mount unable to twist, it this going to put too much stress on the mount brakets or the tranny case???
one other question, how much difference does this make with the height of the axle off a given point??? im interested to know how much closer my driveline angle will be to what it was stock.
i myself arent concerned about the bushings breaking. ive used controll arm bushings for mounts before. in this application the bushing always have a load across the whole bushing. in a controll arm they have a lot of twisting forces on them and thats why they rip.
Last edited by Sharkey; 11-15-2008 at 01:27 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
11-15-2008, 01:31 PM
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so with stage 1 is it just a front mount and the spacer for the rear mount??? what is the difference between an lsj rear mount and an lnf mount??? i do like the fact that your using a smaller solid rubber bushing instead of poly. is that actualy a control arm bushing??? if so i guess that works great as if its ever damaged the bushing isnt hard to get.
ive been loking at rotating the engine by building different mount brackets, i never thought of doing it this way as i dont have the machining capabilities to do that. my only concern is what about the upper mounts??? will the upper engine mount and tranny mount survive being twisted??? what about aftermarket upper mounts??? with a urethane upper mount unable to twist, it this going to put too much stress on the mount brakets or the tranny case???
one other question, how much difference does this make with the height of the axle off a given point??? im interested to know how much closer my driveline angle will be to what it was stock.
ive been loking at rotating the engine by building different mount brackets, i never thought of doing it this way as i dont have the machining capabilities to do that. my only concern is what about the upper mounts??? will the upper engine mount and tranny mount survive being twisted??? what about aftermarket upper mounts??? with a urethane upper mount unable to twist, it this going to put too much stress on the mount brakets or the tranny case???
one other question, how much difference does this make with the height of the axle off a given point??? im interested to know how much closer my driveline angle will be to what it was stock.
11-15-2008, 01:33 PM
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amazing. anybody can copy stuff. I wont tell you the clock, figure it out yourself, you can watercut a keyhole spacer if you want, hell you can grind the s**t out of your mount so you dont nned to , it wont matter until it breaks, and the bushings are not sold by GM as a separate part. We use a jig to replicate the job. It is always possible to jap this stuff that is the road to hell. Go ahead. and when you screw it up you can post here, and if it doesn't screw up you can give yourself a big old pat on the back...and buy a toyota.
11-15-2008, 01:35 PM
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so with stage 1 is it just a front mount and the spacer for the rear mount??? what is the difference between an lsj rear mount and an lnf mount??? i do like the fact that your using a smaller solid rubber bushing instead of poly. is that actualy a control arm bushing??? if so i guess that works great as if its ever damaged the bushing isnt hard to get.
ive been loking at rotating the engine by building different mount brackets, i never thought of doing it this way as i dont have the machining capabilities to do that. my only concern is what about the upper mounts??? will the upper engine mount and tranny mount survive being twisted??? what about aftermarket upper mounts??? with a urethane upper mount unable to twist, it this going to put too much stress on the mount brakets or the tranny case???
one other question, how much difference does this make with the height of the axle off a given point??? im interested to know how much closer my driveline angle will be to what it was stock.
i myself arent concerned about the bushings breaking. ive used controll arm bushings for mounts before. in this application the bushing always have a load across the whole bushing. in a controll arm they have a lot of twisting forces on them and thats why they rip.
ive been loking at rotating the engine by building different mount brackets, i never thought of doing it this way as i dont have the machining capabilities to do that. my only concern is what about the upper mounts??? will the upper engine mount and tranny mount survive being twisted??? what about aftermarket upper mounts??? with a urethane upper mount unable to twist, it this going to put too much stress on the mount brakets or the tranny case???
one other question, how much difference does this make with the height of the axle off a given point??? im interested to know how much closer my driveline angle will be to what it was stock.
i myself arent concerned about the bushings breaking. ive used controll arm bushings for mounts before. in this application the bushing always have a load across the whole bushing. in a controll arm they have a lot of twisting forces on them and thats why they rip.
and the axle solution is almost perfect....if it was not it would not work, kinda like poly mounts sold by others...
