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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 12:24 AM
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A dyno is just a tuning tool. Just because it says 243whp doesnt make it accurate. Go to the track and tell us what you trap. That is a true hp reader
Bingo! But 243whp on a stock pulley with no motor work is complete BS. That dyno gave you...30hp...
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
Hmm. I thought you were supposed to see a little increase in boost if you only port the blower? It shouldn't be flowing less after being ported, it should flow more. Since this pumps air into the intake manifold, if your allowing more to be pumped into the same space shouldn't boost go up since it measure restriction? I have no idea if that's a 'good' number in terms of boost for your location / pulley but I don't think your supposed to see a decrease in boost after porting this blower (assuming its done right).
more cfm's (more airflow) less pressure. the blower pushes air through a small hole (stock) compared to ported (a big whole)
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by moranjames89
more cfm's (more airflow) less pressure. the blower pushes air through a small hole (stock) compared to ported (a big whole)
True, there's gotta be less pressure at that area where air is being pushed out of the blower but I didn't think boost was measured there. I thought it was measured somewhere else in the mani (a place that would be unchanged by a blower only port) that would see an increase in pressure. It made sense (to me) because when you put a smaller pulley on (you get more air out similar to a port - in my head at least) you usually see an increase in psi unless you change the intake manifold / head / exhaust somehow.
Guess I'm wrong, I dunno haha. What do people usually see for a drop from porting the blower only?


Did you do a dyno-run on this dyno before the mods? Cool numbers, take it to the drag strip!

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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 01:19 AM
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i pulled on that dyno right before he did, i pulled 312. thats on the mods in my sig, swapping the k&n for a SRI(of unknown orgin). so it seemed to be about right for a dynojet.

It's just the cobalt gods rewarding him for sticking with the balt after all the bs it gave him
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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It isn't hard to believe, it was a dynojet.
Stock pulley on my old 2.2 ecotec sunfire made 197 whp on a mustang dyno
same stock pulley on my 2.2 I ran on a dynojet that read 230 whp.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
True, there's gotta be less pressure at that area where air is being pushed out of the blower but I didn't think boost was measured there. I thought it was measured somewhere else in the mani (a place that would be unchanged by a blower only port) that would see an increase in pressure. It made sense (to me) because when you put a smaller pulley on (you get more air out similar to a port - in my head at least) you usually see an increase in psi unless you change the intake manifold / head / exhaust somehow.
Guess I'm wrong, I dunno haha. What do people usually see for a drop from porting the blower only?


Did you do a dyno-run on this dyno before the mods? Cool numbers, take it to the drag strip!
no never been on a dyno. that was the first time for my balt on a dyno. and the other only dyno that ive seen there was my friends stage 2 cobalt with gmpp exhaust and he dynoed 216whp.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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something is wrong/good about your setup, either you don't know and we don't know, or you know and we don't know. no way a heat exchanger gives you 38hp+, something is up..... Not saying I don't believe you, just saying you have to be missing something.... stock at 240hp + some cooling mods? that is 60hp less than guys running big power mods on the lsj. I would poke around your car a bit.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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**** is a voodoo magic motor. this one should last
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
**** is a voodoo magic motor. this one should last
so i hope. and it better lol.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by moranjames89
something is wrong/good about your setup, either you don't know and we don't know, or you know and we don't know. no way a heat exchanger gives you 38hp+, something is up..... Not saying I don't believe you, just saying you have to be missing something.... stock at 240hp + some cooling mods? that is 60hp less than guys running big power mods on the lsj. I would poke around your car a bit.
all i know is that am giving you the list of what the car exactly has. i have no reason to be making this up when i have it on chart and vid for prove. the last run i didnt make it soon enough to the screen when it did 243 which is why i told the guy to print out the chart for me.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Koncep Vega
It isn't hard to believe, it was a dynojet.
Stock pulley on my old 2.2 ecotec sunfire made 197 whp on a mustang dyno
same stock pulley on my 2.2 I ran on a dynojet that read 230 whp.
if this is my case as well then if i take it to a mustang dyno it should be around the 210whp since they read lower numbers but then people will still not believe it. I really dont car if people do or dont. i just know the car runs very good for what and how it is right now.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
if this is my case as well then if i take it to a mustang dyno it should be around the 210whp since they read lower numbers but then people will still not believe it. I really dont car if people do or dont. i just know the car runs very good for what and how it is right now.
remember i pulled 248 on the mustang at hplogic, so there's no way a SRI will add 65 hp. did joe check the head? it might be ported
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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iono what to think lol
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellow09LNF
remember i pulled 248 on the mustang at hplogic, so there's no way a SRI will add 65 hp. did joe check the head? it might be ported
yea true. and no joe didnt check the head as far as i know. i think the most we saw was the motor with no valve cover when we sawped to the black n polished one. it just looked very clean.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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The question is how is the blower ported? Just the inlet? or the rotor housing also? The outlet?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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the outlet of the blower was ported heavily and the inlet was smoothed. thats about it.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellow09LNF
remember i pulled 248 on the mustang at hplogic, so there's no way a SRI will add 65 hp. did joe check the head? it might be ported
defiantly.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
the outlet of the blower was ported heavily and the inlet was smoothed. thats about it.
Odd way to go about it. Porting the outlet has shown negative effects in other tests. The Gen V blower has proven before to have a superior outlet design.

The inlet is usually where you want to focus your attention. The more air you can cram into the blower, the more power you can make. Been doing it in the cobra platform for a while now.

I'm surprised you saw an increase in boost at all to be honest. What are you revving to?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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uncorrected numbers?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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am reving at 6500 its on the stock tune. and honestly i can tell you that the boost sits around 13-14psi other than the the car runs great
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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funny how most people just wont admit even when am showin a vis of it. so all the Dynos made that day where correct numbers except mine? lol believe it or not it doesnt matter to me as long as my car is doing fine.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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I'm not claiming dyno problems. I'm just trying to figure out why your car defies the physics.

It's a fact that lower boost on the same pulley means you've free'd up where a restriction used to be, and that results in more power.

The stock blower with stock pulley on the stock exhaust makes 12psi @6500, and most dyno right above 200whp with a few hitting slightly higher numbers. But not as high as yours.

So do you understand why everyone is questioning your numbers? You made higher boost, which means a restriction somewhere, not more power, yet you made 240+whp. Do you have the torque on a graph anywhere?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
funny how most people just wont admit even when am showin a vis of it. so all the Dynos made that day where correct numbers except mine? lol believe it or not it doesnt matter to me as long as my car is doing fine.
You have corrected and uncorrected numbers. The corrected numbers eliminated different factors such as you dynod in the winter so your numbers are higher because its cold out. Your corrected numbers will probably be in the high 220's depending on the dyno/how cold it was.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
I'm not claiming dyno problems. I'm just trying to figure out why your car defies the physics.

It's a fact that lower boost on the same pulley means you've free'd up where a restriction used to be, and that results in more power.

The stock blower with stock pulley on the stock exhaust makes 12psi @6500, and most dyno right above 200whp with a few hitting slightly higher numbers. But not as high as yours.

So do you understand why everyone is questioning your numbers? You made higher boost, which means a restriction somewhere, not more power, yet you made 240+whp. Do you have the torque on a graph anywhere?
stock exhaust??? that enough restriction?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CobaltVenomSS
stock exhaust??? that enough restriction?
no, overall he says he's stock.
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