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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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If its blowing oil out of the catch can it sounds like the crank case is under pressure. It hasn't blown out the oil dipstick has it?
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lewisb13
blown head gasket FTW
Well lets assume it's only the head gasket... Would it be logical to get pistons, rods, valves, etc... while I have the engine open? Understand I am not made of money (I bbarley make 30 K a year) and I'll have to take out a personal loan just to fix the headgasket, but should I get a bigger loan and throw money at the stuff that could go wrong? I like to do things right the first time.

Thoughts???
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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if it's a headgasket then get a head gasket kit. You won't need to replace pistons, rods, etc. But you should replace the valve seals, valve cover gasket, have the head resurfaced(if it's warped at all), change your thermostat and flush your coolant, change your oil and filter. Basically change out all the gaskets and seals on the head.

But DO A COMPRESSION TEST FIRST. Make sure it's the headgasket. It could be coolant from your s/c cooling system also.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Novajoe
if it's a headgasket then get a head gasket kit. You won't need to replace pistons, rods, etc. But you should replace the valve seals, valve cover gasket, have the head resurfaced(if it's warped at all), change your thermostat and flush your coolant, change your oil and filter. Basically change out all the gaskets and seals on the head.

But DO A COMPRESSION TEST FIRST. Make sure it's the headgasket. It could be coolant from your s/c cooling system also.
Good advice man! +1 rep... and for all you other guys that helped.

Originally Posted by rukkee
If its blowing oil out of the catch can it sounds like the crank case is under pressure. It hasn't blown out the oil dipstick has it?
No it hasn't

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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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so has your coolant level dropped at all? Either in your main system or you s/c system?
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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so has your coolant level dropped at all? Either in your main system or you s/c system?
I will have to check that when I get gome tonight,
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Yeah I always thought BLUE smoke was oil
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty1017
Yeah I always thought BLUE smoke was oil
Well realisticaly, can you really tell the diff between white and blue smoke. I mean I have seen them both but its always hard to tell them apart. Maybe I'm just color blind *shrug*
we'll call it "bluish-white" Either way the Leak-down test is getting done tomorrow so that will tell me exactally what is going on. RIGHT?
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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I got white smoke out the tail pipe when one of my injectors shorted out... too much fuel in the exhaust... it burned off after an hour or so.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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I dont know man, my buddys ricer special 88 civic hatch back smoked dark blue and he put in 2 quarts a day. rofl
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Okay so I checked the oil and it was about a quart low, Just filled it last monday. Don't see anything wrong with the coolant.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BallsoutBalt
Okay so I checked the oil and it was about a quart low, Just filled it last monday. Don't see anything wrong with the coolant.
See, something is leaking in the head, allowing it to suck oil into the cylinders. I bet you find a cracked valve seat or bad valve seal, probably more than one. Too much high rmp running for you.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Just dropped it off it off and at first glance the guy said Rings and valves. =( But he is going to test it and let me know.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Last time I had white smoke pour out of an exhaust it was because there was too much oil
in the car and it blew oil passed the rings and on top of the pistons.

Problem was solved with a little blood-letting

-edit: As a side note, the poor fella I was racing at the time thought someone threw a
sheet over his windshield
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Misery5567
Last time I had white smoke pour out of an exhaust it was because there was too much oil
in the car and it blew oil passed the rings and on top of the pistons.

Problem was solved with a little blood-letting

-edit: As a side note, the poor fella I was racing at the time thought someone threw a
sheet over his windshield
I always take mine in to get the oil changed. How many quarts do our cars take?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Manual says 5.5 qts.

Last time I had mine in for one it took 6 to fill it properly.

If the folks you had doing yours accidentally over-filled it then that
would be my bet. (The car I over -filled was a VW Jetta)
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Well last time they changed it they said that it took 6.5 qts.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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white is coolant where its not suppose to be...

blown head gasket more then likely...
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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^ Thats what a few others said.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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If it makes you feel better, you're not the only one with issues...

My shifter cap fell off last night.

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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
If it makes you feel better, you're not the only one with issues...

My shifter cap fell off last night.

You poor bastard. How are you getting around???

Just heard from the mechanic. He said the piston rings are done, and the cylinder walls will most liklet be damaged.
****!!!!
Not what I wanted to hear, but I was expecting something similar.
Any suggestions guys?

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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BallsoutBalt
You poor bastard. How are you getting around???

Just heard from the mechanic. He said the piston rings are done, and the cylinder walls will most liklet be damaged.
****!!!!
Not what I wanted to hear, but I was expecting something similar.
Any suggestions guys?
high hp engine build?
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BallsoutBalt
You poor bastard. How are you getting around???

Just heard from the mechanic. He said the piston rings are done, and the cylinder walls will most liklet be damaged.
****!!!!
Not what I wanted to hear, but I was expecting something similar.
Any suggestions guys?
Damn, and this all happened out of nowhere? Or were you racing someone and something popped like on Cameron's? It just seems weird for the whole thing to take a dump like that, especially when you weren't pushing THAT much power.

What injectors did you have again?
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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That sucks man
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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i would take it somewhere else and get a second opinion before i drop the money to fix it, cause thats gonna be a lot of money. sorry to hear about that. just trowing in my .02
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