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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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I love the black valve cover. And I love the powdercoated M62. Looks really nice. But the placement of the heat exchanger looks funny.

Can't wait to see how it looks when it's all done.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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[QUOTE=G85 SS;3993786]I love the black valve cover. And I love the powdercoated M62. Looks really nice. But the placement of the heat exchanger looks funny.

Can't wait to see how it looks when it's all done. [/QUOTE


When the car is twincharge I will need to run both the air to air intercooler and the heat exchanger. I fabed both of the parts at the same time so I can switch over to the twin setup quickly. The heat exchanger sits behind the top opening in the bumper cover.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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When the car is twincharge I will need to run both the air to air intercooler and the heat exchanger. I fabed both of the parts at the same time so I can switch over to the twin setup quickly. The heat exchanger sits behind the top opening in the bumper cover.
Yea. It just looked funny sitting up so high. Have you done any test fitment with a bumper yet to see if it hits anything?

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Yea. It just looked funny sitting up so high. Have you done any test fitment with a bumper yet to see if it hits anything?
Yea, everything fits nicely. I wouldn't want to fab the part without making sure it fit. I have a LNF bump cover going on the car so I know it fits behind that, but the LSJ cover is not much different.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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I REALLY like the supercharger, it looks awesome, you should have a few more things done in red in your engine bay to even the look out though. A red strut tower would be awesome.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan@zzp
Yea, everything fits nicely. I wouldn't want to fab the part without making sure it fit. I have a LNF bump cover going on the car so I know it fits behind that, but the LSJ cover is not much different.

Awesome deal. Keep us updated.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Here are some more pictures of the turbo
S256 left and SS362 right


.70 a/r turbine housing


Stock LNF turbo vs. SS362


IMG]http://s576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Turbo20L/th_IMG_4325.jpg[/IMG]





2000 degree coating on the turbine housing
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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I can't see the pics at work. All image hosting sites are blocked.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
I can't see the pics at work. All image hosting sites are blocked.
Well i will say its way bigger than an LNF turbo hahah
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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I can't see the pics at work. All image hosting sites are blocked.
W3RD! Gov't computer blocks all these pics as well.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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turbo looks good
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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nicely sized turbo
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Just saw the pics.....

You haz a big snail dude. Interested to see how much lag you see from it if any.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
Just saw the pics.....

You haz a big snail dude. Interested to see how much lag you see from it if any.
There won't be any lag with the twincharge setup. It should spool a pretty big turbo with ease.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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yeah...i was like wtf when i saw the .70ar turbine housing lol but the blower should jelp spool it up a lot fster than it would on engine alone
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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good stuff guys. I think its funny almost all your threads there is a hater in, but glad to see you keep doing things for the cobalt community(with nice results too) Its a weird breed that own these cars lol
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Doood, i'm Droooling, lol... This is a good looking setup, and it looks like it's well thought out too....

As for the haters, i would say it's more like jealousy, lol...
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zrated89
good stuff guys. I think its funny almost all your threads there is a hater in, but glad to see you keep doing things for the cobalt community(with nice results too) Its a weird breed that own these cars lol
there's always going to be haters when you're doing something different.. i got haters on my setup but i hit great numbers.. on some more tuning i'll hit better numbers hell right now i'm already hitting better numbers.. people like to talk **** just because it's not something thats not what they would do


would a turbo setup be more efficient and cost less.. prolly. but they didn't do this for fun they did it to be different and such keep up the good work zzp after those 11 sec 2.4L runs you've shut alot of people up ..

just don't get too ful of yourself..
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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good luck with the build guys, should be epic! whats the s362 rated for 500-600hp?

i love the idea of your twincharge kit, but just cant understand how once the turbo is spooled all that air is flowing through the bypass valve on the s/c.. at this time is the main throttle body plate closed while the bypass is open? then that would make sense to me, but im not clear on it?
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 05sattyredline
good luck with the build guys, should be epic! whats the s362 rated for 500-600hp?

i love the idea of your twincharge kit, but just cant understand how once the turbo is spooled all that air is flowing through the bypass valve on the s/c.. at this time is the main throttle body plate closed while the bypass is open? then that would make sense to me, but im not clear on it?
Over 700whp has been made on the 362, but that is not the number we are shooting for quite yet.

The bypass opens to basicly equalize the pressure on the top and bottom of the blower. If you didn't open the bypass the boost would compound.
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan@zzp
Over 700whp has been made on the 362, but that is not the number we are shooting for quite yet.

The bypass opens to basicly equalize the pressure on the top and bottom of the blower. If you didn't open the bypass the boost would compound.
I am very curious about this and need to search for previous threads on the twincharged kit, but it just seems like the supercharger would be a huge restriction for the turbo at some point.... I'm not arguing the facts, because i really don't have any facts on this... I'm just very interested to see how this works out for you. You have to post dyno numbers. Also, what would happen if you also put on a bigger supercharger to match the bigger turbo? Just a bigger restriction... lol...
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by b_faulk75
I am very curious about this and need to search for previous threads on the twincharged kit, but it just seems like the supercharger would be a huge restriction for the turbo at some point.... I'm not arguing the facts, because i really don't have any facts on this... I'm just very interested to see how this works out for you. You have to post dyno numbers. Also, what would happen if you also put on a bigger supercharger to match the bigger turbo? Just a bigger restriction... lol...
From what i understand the supercharger is just to spool the turbo so putting a larger one wouldn't really help. This way you have a nice thick powerband.
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by b_faulk75
I am very curious about this and need to search for previous threads on the twincharged kit, but it just seems like the supercharger would be a huge restriction for the turbo at some point.... I'm not arguing the facts, because i really don't have any facts on this... I'm just very interested to see how this works out for you. You have to post dyno numbers. Also, what would happen if you also put on a bigger supercharger to match the bigger turbo? Just a bigger restriction... lol...
If the blower is capable of moving more air than the motor, in other words making boost, then it will never be a restriction regardless of turbo boost. Air compressed before the blower will simply be moved that much easier by the rotors, and the boost compounded. To imagine this, consider the size difference between the inlet and outlet tubes of a turbo. Once the air is compressed, the tubing is much smaller. This also applies to the blower being fed by a turbo.
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Updates as promised,

After some more dyno testing we reached some what of a limit on gasoline and decided that it was time to do some e85 testing. Matt dropped the tank removed the factory regulator. After the sending unit and tank were back in the car Matt installed our boost reference kit. Easy of install from 1-10 , ten being most difficult I would rate the install at about a 4 or 5 if you are dropping the tank, and 1 or 2 if you are leaving the tank in the car. We used the factory evap line for this install as shown on the ZZP product page. I installed a ZZP fuel pump rewire to make sure our fuel pump voltage stayed in-check.

Nearly every prototype part that I have installed has been a gain in power on the car. I guess we could keep on testing and testing but the car needs to go to the track and race. There has been many late nights working on this car and it never seems to end but if we are going to race anytime soon I need to get the car over to our third bay for some paint.

Here are the numbers from our most recent dyno testing.


STD correction, e85, 60’s, 2.6

http://www.zzperformance.com/miscftp/Ryan06ss319a.jpg

We actually dynoed more power but decided to race the car with the setup that achieved the posted power level. The time slips will back this power level as soon as the car is back from paint .

More pictures coming soon!



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