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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:09 AM
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Saw some good meteors tonight
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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I am watching for them now out in Laveen!
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
I would like to quote this post and point out I am wrong, I was reading it as red equaling HP and blue equaling torque. Its Blue equals tuned numbers and red equals stock. I am a horses ass and its not a shitty powerband reading it the correct way LOL
It's all cool. I figured that's what you were doing. And if you are ever curious why ALL cars have less TQ than HP after 5,250 rpm (which ALL cars magically make less TQ than HP after that rpm) it's because of the equation used to calculate HP. Engines only produce TQ, and HP is a calculation of TQ by rpm.

The equation is: Horsepower = (Torque x RPM) / 5,250

So when the RPM is at 5,250 HP and TQ must be the same. Before then TQ must be greater than HP, and Afterwards HP must be greater than TQ.

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Stevo do you know what that bump of power is in the graph? Something does not look right. It does it stock too as you can tell.
Just a wee bit of false knock that appeared on the log. It wouldn't go away no matter what the timing was, and it wasn't really knocking there either. But the ECM pulled the timing regardless. These LNFs show a lot of false knock for some reason, but you have to make sure it's false. His car did have one little bit of real knock a couple times at almost exactly 4,000 rpms.

Since he has the MAF sensor located near the airfilter in the fender well we will do a little bit of MAF tuning soon to clear that up. Overall I think his car did great. It sure didn't make 320-340wtq, but I wasn't expecting a miracle in 115* heat either. I was experiencing IAT1 temps of 163*, which is only about 70* hotter air at the air filter than when we tune in the winter time.

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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yep I knew about the equation and the drop in tq vs hp. 163 iat1!?! Holy **** what was it after the intercoolr??

I've seen that the false knock may be caused by how loud the fuel system is in the lnf. Wish hptuners had a soloution to numb the sensors a bit

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
yep I knew about the equation and the drop in tq vs hp. 163 iat1!?! Holy **** what was it after the intercoolr??

I've seen that the false knock may be caused by how loud the fuel system is in the lnf. Wish hptuners had a soloution to numb the sensors a bit
That 163 has to be post turbo and if that is post intercooler it seems the stock cooler is not that efficient.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
That 163 has to be post turbo and if that is post intercooler it seems the stock cooler is not that efficient.
He needs Nicks intercooler. The Pacestter has so much more low to mid range pick up. Its awesome!
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
He needs Nicks intercooler. The Pacestter has so much more low to mid range pick up. Its awesome!
Now way! Nicks cracks easily!

Has your injectors come yet?
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Now way! Nicks cracks easily!

Has your injectors come yet?
They will be here when the mail comes probably around 2.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Hey my ic isn't that bad
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
Hey my ic isn't that bad
I did not say it. Chris can take the blame on that one. How is the car witht he 50% blend?
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Good no knock at 20 degrees so were going to turn it up to 22-23
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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he said iat1 and at the air filter lol, that's why I was so amazed. I liked my pacesetter too I felt like I lost tq down low with it. It's a nice piece for the money tho!

22+ timing is going to be insane nick

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
he said iat1 and at the air filter lol, that's why I was so amazed. I liked my pacesetter too I felt like I lost tq down low with it. It's a nice piece for the money tho!

22+ timing is going to be insane nick
That is 22+ with no meth we hope
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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jeebus...22* huh...so when are you going all forged internals?
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tglems
jeebus...22* huh...so when are you going all forged internals?
We just put those in last week.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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yeah we did it last weekend, plasti dipped them prior to install as well
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
he said iat1 and at the air filter lol, that's why I was so amazed. I liked my pacesetter too I felt like I lost tq down low with it. It's a nice piece for the money tho!

22+ timing is going to be insane nick
Ya its going to be a beast

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yeah we did it last weekend, plasti dipped them prior to install as well
Ya haha

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
yeah we did it last weekend, plasti dipped them prior to install as well
Yeah it only took us 15 minutes to remove, assemble and install.

Originally Posted by sundevil07
he said iat1 and at the air filter lol, that's why I was so amazed. I liked my pacesetter too I felt like I lost tq down low with it. It's a nice piece for the money tho!
Well were out of the low band very quick so Im not too concerned.

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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you and nick should have a battle of the e85 monsters steve!
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
you and nick should have a battle of the e85 monsters steve!
Hey dont forget I am E85 too! And the first one out of us! geeze, how soon we forget.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
you and nick should have a battle of the e85 monsters steve!
I think Chris and I would be more of a contest. I have a feeling that since Nick is running that much timing now he will destroy us both. If he was on his old 12-14* tune, with me running E-85 and my Pacesetter, I would beat him.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Hey dont forget I am E85 too! And the first one out of us! geeze, how soon we forget.
Yes you were the first one. You started it all out here in az
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Hey dont forget I am E85 too! And the first one out of us! geeze, how soon we forget.
Dont worry Chris I still remember
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
I think Chris and I would be more of a contest. I have a feeling that since Nick is running that much timing now he will destroy us both. If he was on his old 12-14* tune, with me running E-85 and my Pacesetter, I would beat him.
Yah it would be a good race. That reminds me, I have to re tune you before we race... gotta add more..... timing....
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