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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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oh no i was thinking of sending the ecu to CA but i lost faith in them and if i send it to them and i get the ecu a year later i rather just pay someone to come and tune the car

how much do the hpt cost i might just buy the and have someone email me a tune

Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
I would wait until you have a tuner. Your car may start, but threre is no guarantee's since your injectors are about double stockers. I would not recommend it.

What is the Stage #3 tune you are talking about in your sig? Is that just your custom tune?
well im going to work now but yea thanks for the help i guess ill wait till i put the parts come in and ill drive to a performance shop hopefully i dont get charged and arm and a leg cause i was going to pay 50 dollars to get everything installed all i was going to need was a tune

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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I thought on the way to get your car at your buddies chris nick said he was on the stevo tune?
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
I thought on the way to get your car at your buddies chris nick said he was on the stevo tune?
Nope, I switched the tune at Tylers, back to Terms tune, before Nick went to class.

Originally Posted by tony2toness/sc
oh no i was thinking of sending the ecu to CA but i lost faith in them and if i send it to them and i get the ecu a year later i rather just pay someone to come and tune the car

how much do the hpt cost i might just buy the and have someone email me a tune



well im going to work now but yea thanks for the help i guess ill wait till i put the parts come in and ill drive to a performance shop hopefully i dont get charged and arm and a leg cause i was going to pay 50 dollars to get everything installed all i was going to need was a tune
I see. You may get charged upwards of 300 for a shop to tune you. hp tuners is expensive, like 499 or something like that. I wish I could help you by coming down there. The only day i may be able to is this friday afternoon or next friday I may have the whole day off.

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Yes. That is correct.



Damn that is far. If I didnt have to work all weekend I could. There is nobody in the area with HPT? Maybe in Tucson? I can tune your car over the web. You just need the program.
i would help if my laptop would work right. i have hpt.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
I thought on the way to get your car at your buddies chris nick said he was on the stevo tune?
when i left the dyno that day i did have stevo tune on my car and tyler, tyler, and i just played around on the streets back to tylers house i deff felt a difference especially since stevo have my westgate set at 66% up top. cris switched it back to terms tune when i left for my class. but when steve and i did our run the other day i was on term tune at only 10-11 degrees of timing. would like to see what my car will do now that i have meth.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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well ****, I shoulda kept my lsj
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
well ****, I shoulda kept my lsj
hell no!!!!!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
when i left the dyno that day i did have stevo tune on my car and tyler, tyler, and i just played around on the streets back to tylers house i deff felt a difference especially since stevo have my westgate set at 66% up top. cris switched it back to terms tune when i left for my class. but when steve and i did our run the other day i was on term tune at only 10-11 degrees of timing. would like to see what my car will do now that i have meth.
Destroy me

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well ****, I shoulda kept my lsj
lsj

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hell no!!!!!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo_chevy_cobalt
i would help if my laptop would work right. i have hpt.
That would help a lot. Fix that thing!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
That would help a lot. Fix that thing!
I dont think you have room to talk about the quality of ones laptop Chris
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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my MAF is being evil
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
I dont think you have room to talk about the quality of ones laptop Chris
It was hp tuners. I got that fixed from Bill.

Originally Posted by FF_ace
my MAF is being evil
That sucks man. I wish I knew what could be wrong other than the maf went bad.


So I just filled up with E85. Holy crap! I hit 24 degrees of timing in 100 degree heat with no meth. Its pure sex. Mid range feels really powerful too!
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Have you seen Nicks dynos? Put down way more than a 2.7 meth SC car could. The race was from a 40 roll its all in the cars abilities. I dont really care though. You can have a "professional" tune you, like trifecta, and have a TC cobalt with more boost, a larger turbo setup, and fuel options and a "HPT Tuned" TC cobalt will lower boost a smaller turbo setup, with no fuel options run neck and neck.

I dont know why this turned into a pissing match.
I Don't know a Nick with a SC... So I don't know which dyno's you are referring to.
I'm guessing you are talking about Tyler and Nick's race?
Remember too that no car is the same... But I do hear what you're saying

Maybe because you got mad that I suggested Trifecta and have a professional tune it? He does do it for a living... Just saying.
I've never had my car knock before on any tune of Vince's and I saw Nick's car that day at the dyno and felt bad when it had 5* of knock. I would just prefer the safer tune over the one that might make my engine blow, even if that means being slower.


Originally Posted by tony2toness/sc
hey guys would any good tuner be available near the weekend or maybe next week to tune my car ill pay for gas and stuff i should have all my parts in by then if any one is interested in helping me tune the car send me a pm so we can organized something
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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I just did a pull in second to 7600 rpm! Holy crap! All I can say is I miss my car. I am going to bump the timing and play around with it to feel the best results. I got a little work to do on the trims but she is alive! No knock on 24 degrees! It is awsome. Now if I could do something about those damn IAT2's.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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see i told you that there was a e85 station close to your house that you didnt have to drive all the way out to western state petrol. i want a ride
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
see i told you that there was a e85 station close to your house that you didnt have to drive all the way out to western state petrol. i want a ride
yah yah... Well I had about 3/16 tank left and was trying to burn it so I can put the fuel in. So I drove for an hour and thirty minutes on the surface streets trying to waste it. (I got some good log numbers ) So I finally went up there and the lights were off in the little shop, the overhangs from the pumps lights were off on the 385 side. I was like ****! So I pulled up and put my card in and it still let me pump.

Good call Nick! You will get a ride once you find your boost leak or MAF problem. We need to put the old tune on, before meth, disconnect the meth, and see what the trims are. If they are still whacky then we need to hunt for the leak.

Hey Steve: Can your wide band be switched to E85? The range is from like 6.5-10.5 ARF's. (<- that was a guess)
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
yah yah... Well I had about 3/16 tank left and was trying to burn it so I can put the fuel in. So I drove for an hour and thirty minutes on the surface streets trying to waste it. (I got some good log numbers ) So I finally went up there and the lights were off in the little shop, the overhangs from the pumps lights were off on the 385 side. I was like ****! So I pulled up and put my card in and it still let me pump.

Good call Nick! You will get a ride once you find your boost leak or MAF problem. We need to put the old tune on, before meth, disconnect the meth, and see what the trims are. If they are still whacky then we need to hunt for the leak.

Hey Steve: Can your wide band be switched to E85? The range is from like 6.5-10.5 ARF's. (<- that was a guess)
ya thats what term to me to do
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
ya thats what term to me to do
That blows.


So I just looked at my duty cycle on my injectors. At 7600rpm on a 2.8" pulley I am at 79% duty cycle. That is close to accurate for now since I still have to fix the trims and pull some fuel so it maybe decrease to up to 5%. I need to get a WB installed so I can tune this accurately.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
That blows.


So I just looked at my duty cycle on my injectors. At 7600rpm on a 2.8" pulley I am at 79% duty cycle. That is close to accurate for now since I still have to fix the trims and pull some fuel so it maybe decrease to up to 5%. I need to get a WB installed so I can tune this accurately.
How much will that decrease if you only had a 7200 reline like mine...

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Hey Steve: Can your wide band be switched to E85? The range is from like 6.5-10.5 ARF's. (<- that was a guess)
There is a four position switch on the back of the gauge for different settings. I have not read up enough on what they change.

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my MAF is being evil
Sorry to hear Nick!

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
How much will that decrease if you only had a 7200 reline like mine...



There is a four position switch on the back of the gauge for different settings. I have not read up enough on what they change.



Sorry to hear Nick!
its not the maf most likely a boost leak somewhere
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
How much will that decrease if you only had a 7200 reline like mine...

There is a four position switch on the back of the gauge for different settings. I have not read up enough on what they change.
Mine is at a WOT AFR of 11.0. Again that is a guess of what its really at since I dont have a WB. If we increase the AFR to about 11.3 then drop your rev limit to 7k, (which should still have you in power band when you shift) some meth and lots of water... We may get away with it but it may push it. Then if it doesnt work then you will have to take it eassy till you fill up with 91 again and re tune.

I say you get 80's, then get a tvs, then get sleeves and pistons to go along after the increase in pressure grenades your car.

Originally Posted by FF_ace
its not the maf most likely a boost leak somewhere
Yah Nick, more than likely it is. The car is trying to compensate for the Rich conditions and cant so it shuts the MAF down.

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Mine is at a WOT AFR of 11.0. Again that is a guess of what its really at since I dont have a WB. If we increase the AFR to about 11.3 then drop your rev limit to 7k, (which should still have you in power band when you shift) some meth and lots of water... We may get away with it but it may push it. Then if it doesnt work then you will have to take it eassy till you fill up with 91 again and re tune.

I say you get 80's, then get a tvs, then get sleeves and pistons to go along after the increase in pressure grenades your car.



Yah Nick, more than likely it is. The car is trying to compensate for the Rich conditions and cant so it shuts the MAF down.
ya i just dont know if its on the ic somewhere or from the hole we tapped in the charge pipes for the meth nozzel
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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ya i just dont know if its on the ic somewhere or from the hole we tapped in the charge pipes for the meth nozzel
Look at the tap first. you may need to get something welded that you can just screw the nozzle in.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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hey guys whats up my parts some of my parts arrive today lol just checked the tracking on ups and there in transit
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
ya i just dont know if its on the ic somewhere or from the hole we tapped in the charge pipes for the meth nozzel
Check to make sure that pipe is tight then check the fitting. Sorry man we were both concerned about tapping that pipe due to it being circular and the fitting being flat.
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