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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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floor strut bar?

has anyone tried this? and is this a good price for it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...112448021&rd=1

i have just bought a DC sport front strut bar and am in the process of either getting the eibach sway kit or the progress rear sway bar. so i am upgrading on my suspension and handling.
if anyone has tried this please let me know.
thanks!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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i think cobalt addiction sales one that is more for our cars.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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hmm.. il check it out. thanks!!

i didn't find one

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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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idk i never acutally saw it i saw another thread similar to this one a while back.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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i dont think i would ever use one of these due to the fact that i always carry friends or sisters in the car so they will trip or hit that thing all the time
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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i tell people i have a two seater. the back seats are for storage, lol. and if i absolutely have to drive people.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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http://www.cobalt-addiction.com/interior.htm

I would get one just for show tho haha
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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im planning on picking one up... ive herd good things
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nramlow2006
im planning on picking one up... ive herd good things
such as...
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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everyone says they have them or used them but no one tell hows it works or if they like it!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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yeah, im really interested to know!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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I can't see it really doing that much. The middle of the car should not see any lateral expansion or contraction, in any condition. I love my strut bar, but that works because shock towers do actually flex when cornering, you can see that just by jacking the front end of the car up. As far as a middle body brace, I think it could be helpful, more stiffness is usually a good thing, but I don't expect it to give amazing or even noticable results. Get front and rear strut braces/sway bars before you go for something like that. Or have a cage installed.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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I've said this many times on here in these posts....I don't think that this will do any good for us. It's a cool peice to have, and to say you have, but when it comes down to it it really doesn't help much unless you're doing full blown road racing. But then at that point you'd have a rollcage and wouldn't need one anyway.

In other words, your money is better spent someplace else.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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i also a was told it helps in case of a side impact... my buddy has one in his bmw.. he told me he can feel a differenc in hard exits on turns..
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Old May 3, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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The universal and bolt together ones are junk. If you look at where the bar bolts together and adjust you can see where the bar will flex and bend. Basically if you bolt that in it will do next to nothing. Floor bars typically do not help at all and are not worth the investment. You would be better off to install a real roll bar or invest your money in other suspension components.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltPerformanceParts
The universal and bolt together ones are junk. If you look at where the bar bolts together and adjust you can see where the bar will flex and bend. Basically if you bolt that in it will do next to nothing. Floor bars typically do not help at all and are not worth the investment. You would be better off to install a real roll bar or invest your money in other suspension components.
exactly what i needed to hear! thanks for the input!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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No problem!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Has anyone actually taken out the rear seats? We already have a mid body brace. Although ours is actually bolted down on the ends and two bolts in the center to the floor. I took mine out a while ago, and you can feel a huge difference on entering turns, exiting turns. Example: On the ramp going from the 101 to the 202 I was able to take it, w/ the bar, at around 90-95mph with slight loss of traction, but with the bar removed, the car was real skitterish around 80-85mph. I think it makes a difference accelerating from a dig as well, because I was getting more wheel spin higher in the RPMS w/o it on the street. Although, many variables could have affected that. I won't know for sure until I test this out the next time I go to the track.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Ive been waiting for soem one to get this, looks cool enough but does it help at all. Get it and then let us know.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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After seeing this.. i really need to market useless products that 'look impressive'

Seriously.. i have never seen such a crappy useless idea.. well besides the 'tornado'

Chassis stiffness only plays a small role in overall vehicle handling.. especially with a chassis like ours. Compared to suspension deflection, its much less than 5% chassis deflection impact. So if you want to work on the 5% potential benefit go ahead.. im going to spend my money on the suspension components themselves comprising of 95%+ of the potential performance gain.

i.e. shocks, struts, sway bars, springs, alignment, correcting bump steer, etc..


This product falls under.. "hey it looks neat.. i think it'll do something!!.. wont it?" And i just love hearing people say they can feel a difference.. BS

Go pick up a copy of Racecar Vehicle dynamics by Milliken, read and understand the book.. then tell me if you think this bar makes ANY sense..
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TVS_SS
After seeing this.. i really need to market useless products that 'look impressive'

Seriously.. i have never seen such a crappy useless idea.. well besides the 'tornado'

Chassis stiffness only plays a small role in overall vehicle handling.. especially with a chassis like ours. Compared to suspension deflection, its much less than 5% chassis deflection impact. So if you want to work on the 5% potential benefit go ahead.. im going to spend my money on the suspension components themselves comprising of 95%+ of the potential performance gain.

i.e. shocks, struts, sway bars, springs, alignment, correcting bump steer, etc..


This product falls under.. "hey it looks neat.. i think it'll do something!!.. wont it?" And i just love hearing people say they can feel a difference.. BS

Go pick up a copy of Racecar Vehicle dynamics by Milliken, read and understand the book.. then tell me if you think this bar makes ANY sense..
That explains the $20 price tag.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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I was the creator of the other thread about the CA floor brace you guys have been reffering to.

I have this sitting at my house, but mine is the Cobalt Addiction model. I had a Do-Luck rear brace back when I had my RX-7, and it actually made a world of difference, mainly b/c my RX was a convertible, so it lacked alot of rigity. I'll get around to putting it on someday. I saw it installed on a fellow Cobalt recently at HIN DC though and it looked really nice. The owner said it was simple to install to. $90 for increased rigity.....I dont see why not!? My girlfriend recently just orderd the Shark Racing center bar, which is basically the exact same thing, for her '05 Tiburon SE V6. We plan on installing them on the same day, b/c me and her like taking days to mod our cars together. Aren't we cute? LOL
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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definately let me know how it performs
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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I have a 88 convertible rx7 that was road raced for 3+ years. The floor brace didn't do squat in it. That actually was my first test car for a floor brace. I was doing skid pad tests for road racing and trying differnt combinations and suspensions setups. It ended up doing not providing any more g's then without it in. However it did help when I ripped out the convertible top and put in welded roll bar in. Im not trying to say they dont do anything but spend your money on items that actually make a significant improvement in handling. Such as a coilover system or a spring and strut combo. Something like that should be used to help a aftermarket suspension setup. Not a pre suspensions setup. Also just buy one that is a solid piece if you do pick one up.
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