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H&R race springs just after install

Old May 24, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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H&R race springs just after install

Okay, so I know several of you guys are running H&R race springs on here, and I just finished installing my own but I notice I have a wicked rake.
Any suggestions??
I know I have seen a few pics of H&R race springs who didn't have this effect.


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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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I know someone with Race springs had custom rear springs made to get rid of the rake. Are you sure those aren't Sports? That rear wheel gap seems pretty big. Both H&R springs sets give the car some rake. Your axles are going to hate you very soon also!

Paint your drums black!

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Old May 25, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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H&r

ya i need to do something about those drums, just haven't had the time.
I guess your talking about the vibration when accelerating ya ive got that, anyone have a fix for it?

oh and those springs are race for sure not sports. race = red/ black = sport. right?

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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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The fix for the axle vibration is to go to a spring that doesn't drop the car so much! lol
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin Balt
The fix for the axle vibration is to go to a spring that doesn't drop the car so much! lol
or rotated transmission mounts
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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I might look into some tranny mounts then because im not going to give up a good stance, i can deal with a little vibration.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin Balt
I know someone with Race springs had custom rear springs made to get rid of the rake. Are you sure those aren't Sports? That rear wheel gap seems pretty big. Both H&R springs sets give the car some rake. Your axles are going to hate you very soon also!

That was me....Trust me the car will settle. The race springs give u the raked look and sports make them lower in the back than the front. Ive been on the race fronts for about 20k and am just having my first axle issue....
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Old May 25, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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damn some u guys go tooooo low.

H&r's always have rack. took my old civic a good 3-4 months to finally settle in the the rear a bit lower. then again, another factor is shocks. my old kyb agx's for most of that time were what was not letting the springs settle(they are strong shocks )
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Old May 25, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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h and r race srings have a rake

h and r sport springs do not
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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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Did you cut your bump stops in the rear? I would cut the tapered tip off at least. Maybe the race springs drop so much that the bump stops are keeping it from dropping all the way?
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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Don't cut bump stops. I'll post 40 threads about that if i have to. DON'T CUT ANYTHING.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Old May 25, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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heres what h&r race springs did to my axles

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Old May 25, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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Uncut bump stops= limited suspension travel/harsh ride, but extended shock and strut life.
Cut bump stops= more suspension travel/smoother ride, but shortened shock and strut life.
I'll let you make your own choice!

Personally, I would rather buy new shocks and struts every 2-3 years than have almost no suspension travel. I tried leaving my bump stops uncut with my Progress springs, but ended up taking everything apart and cutting my fronts in half and only about 1/2" off the back ones. The front end bucked from side to side and was rough as hell on bumpy roads. I definitely prefer the way my car rides with them cut.

FYI, I checked the travel of the front struts with the bump stops cut in half and the piston was a good 3/4"-1" from bottoming out. However, if you want to play it safe, I would just cut 1/2" off front and back.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
heres what h&r race springs did to my axles

Oh well. Comes with the territory...
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Old May 25, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin Balt
Uncut bump stops= limited suspension travel/harsh ride, but extended shock and strut life.
Cut bump stops= more suspension travel/smoother ride, but shortened shock and strut life.
I'll let you make your own choice!

Personally, I would rather buy new shocks and struts every 2-3 years than have almost no suspension travel. I tried leaving my bump stops uncut with my Progress springs, but ended up taking everything apart and cutting my fronts in half and only about 1/2" off the back ones. The front end bucked from side to side and was rough as hell on bumpy roads. I definitely prefer the way my car rides with them cut.

FYI, I checked the travel of the front struts with the bump stops cut in half and the piston was a good 3/4"-1" from bottoming out. However, if you want to play it safe, I would just cut 1/2" off front and back.
Playing it safe is cutting nothing.

I never cut my rear bumpstops on coilovers, and they were absolutely fine.

I left my bumpstops alone when i put my pedders in, and only once have i hit them. You don't necessarily want excessive amounts of travel. It's only there stock for comfort.

DONT CUT BUMPTOPS.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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i used a combination of 1. the instructions from my sportlines (from my last cobalt) and 2. the H&R race springs came with a bump stop cutting guide which the cobalt was not on, however the cavalier was (recommended 1 inch on) and ya its a totally different setup i still felt it best to cut them by about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Are rotated mounts only for manual transmission cars?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Are those good springs?
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