What makes it the bandwagon site?

 

And I feel like its one big Powell infomercial. Granted they are the best parts you can buy, no doubt there. But still gets a little much.

 

You put in your time, did your research and know what your talking about, I respect the hell out of that. What bugs me is the kids read these forums and just repeat over and over stuff they have heard before and that is the way allot of misinformation get taken as truth. Everyone in the cobalt community just seems so afraid to step out of the box and try new things.

 

wheres werks in that list?

 

because stepping out of the box and trying new things isnt always a good idea. why not buy the parts ment for handling from the company that built the fastest time attack cobalt there has ever been....that built the koni challenge grand am cars..... not to mention have you ever seen the corvettes they build?

i mean obviously just because theres 1 good company out there doesnt mean theres not another BUT powells parts have been proven time and time and time again...ive beaten the living **** out of my suspension. the bar has yet to warp or anything of the sort.

 

Can't put werks in that list of bad names. They've built their kits and one was on display during CED. Was out with us on the highway running full throttle. Dyno sheets shown. And now they are working on different things.

Plus they are making parts for the TC that are made of american materials. That much I heartily respect.

 

i ment in the list of proven parts not list of fail parts

 

thanks for all the kind words. Its expensive to be a vendor on this site, and if people want my stuff they can just google and find me. Its not that I am invisible. Group buys we do on Ontario Cobalt Clubs dot com and on gm sc. Not always. but if you want a sway bar gb, then contact me and rather than have a big bs wind up, I will give shipped prices to anyone who asks that are very decent.
the triple X bar Wangspeed asked for, is in production along with the 1.0 and 1.25 bars ( our stock of street and hardcore is okay but needs replenishing as it is selling well)

Technically as you drive better, get better tires on the car, and understand the car better, like Wangspeed you find you want more rear roll stiffness and the way this bar is designed, the change in roll center. LS1fbody here has the stiffest of all the rear beams its a race one from time attack.

So thanks for talking about it all, and take it from me I drive deltas and J bodies every day, the cobalt with the prs bars/ T and L cabs are beasts on the street and the track....

 

Unfortunately, that's the only way we learn. Through trial and error, making sure we learn from mistakes made in past times.

I wasn't taking a shot at you earlier, but there is a reason why the site seems so concentrated on one thing. It's trying to make our vehicles, our piece of automotive passion the best it can be.

 

this....so hope on the "bandwagon"

 

Oh, thanks for clearing that up.

confused for a sec. Thought you was saying they were garbage or something.

 

hahaha nooooo.....442whp 450 ftlbs 6200 rpm 25psi.... i think not

 

 

I'll be on THAT bandwagon quick as hell! HAHA

Don't get me wrong I'm not bashing his stuff. It's the best by far and for someone to put that kind of effort for us I am thankful everyday.

 

everyones always up for innovation but innovation doesnt always work....just like i seen some other idiot post up he doesnt like the sway bar design......explain to me how the hell else your going to design a sway bar to work with a torsion beam thats not built in.....the only other way is remove the stock one and build another one in.

 

Just remember, he works primarily with suspension bits. We have diverse routes to go with for all aspects of the delta.

 

this.....werks is on there, matt m and ryan from zzp are on there from time to time, and a bunch of others.

 

the way john explained it to me is that there is a stark difference in body roll from my SS/NA to the SS/SC and SS/TC. I was going to get the hardcore bar and I still might but he said it will cause problems without a front sway bar with the rear end wanting to get loose. Unless I get a front Sway bar and a rear sway bar, upgraded FE5 shocks and struts then I will have a hard time handling in the rain.

Since I don't intend on going to the track, the street bar will do just fine with my SSC springs.

Ill hopefully be ordering tomorrow if I get to see what the black textured bars he's currently stocking look like. Otherwise, Ill be waiting for the powder coat run he's doing soon.

 

I just replaced my front bar with the ss/tc fe5 nice improvement, pain in the ass to install, thank god you only do it once.

 

wrinkle black is the most durable of the colors........ if you arent running a a front bar DO NOT get a hardcore bar. like john said you will have a hard time with it.

 

Got any pictures? Ive been emailing him alot this evening and I would be like "dude its friggin 10pm...."

 

Wrinkle black stealthness:

 

hes good with people usually unless you **** him off.......especially with him being an older guy. hes good with the younger car guys on the forums. responds well usually.

mines red. will be recoating sooner or later. wrinkle the way to go for undercar parts.

 

i got red one too it looks purdy lol

 

Yea, I suppose its one of those things like a rub on a body kit. Although rarely actually seen, its still in the back of my mind that its there.

Thanks for the help -- Going to push to order tomorrow morning with him and hopefully have it and installed by the saturday meetup in Nashville.