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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoly
Indeed you are correct! That was my point!

But as soon as I said Eibach, you got all excited. I just don't get why people insult other brands when there is no proof that they aren't as good. That's is all!

MY recollection is TTR was first out before even Eibach and so they got good reviews. Then OTTP has recently followed suite, and OTTP has been great to the balt community and is therefore respected. But it by no means represent that anything else is bad.

I honestly wish there was a legit comparison. Would really be fun to see!
there is only one real basic question to ask: what is the bar made from? If the bar is made from mild steel, well houston, we have a problem....
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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I wrote a review on these parts.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/autocross-road-racing-53/another-track-day-sway-bar-control-arm-review-177418/
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Ive seen all the pics from the thread, but I was looking for more of the end pieces that bolt up.

made from military specification chromoly steel tube

ogc - yup I read that review a couple times now over the last week. It was one of the factors that helped decide to get the hardcore bar.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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i'll take alot of pics when i put mine on and give a review after my auto-x with it on the 26th. hoping to beat my friends e46 m3 that has sways, rcomps, cabs, 18lbs rims, and pulleys
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoly
It's not a game Drew. I just cleared up a discrepancy.

Stiner, I by no means said the OTTP wasn't any good. Neither did I say the Eibach was better. I stated the fact that the forming process was similar. And not hot-formed as others implied.

Pull your pants back up!

And Race proven doesn't mean it's worth more (it's a selling feature, but not a reason to double the profit). The price should sincerely reflect the cost of material and forming! Every one else is within a 10$ difference. I'm interested in the OTTP, but with shipping to Canada, I just can't justify it.

As for the Hardcore bar... I still need to drive car in snow, and the Hardcore would be a recipe for disaster. It's not about ego's, "hey my bar is stronger than yours", it's about functionality VS cost.

Bigger is not always better! Too big will create too much oversteer! Especially on an otherwise stock car. Yes it works on the Time Attack cars, but did you not read the list of mods involved??? Full suspension, knucles, hubs, axles, mounts, traction bars and alot more! Throwing an otherwise huge rear bar without considering anything else, will tend to kick your rear end out. A little understeer is safer.

Some good info:
http://www.rogerkrausracing.net/Unde...er_Steer_.html
time attack had NO traction bars. It had competition knuckles freely available, it had axles to permit use of grand am wheel bearings, it had coil over ohlins shocks and spherical joints in the flca and rear twb, along with a rear sway bar hardcore style...1.25.

All this stuff is currently on my car. works fine. LSJfBody has the first iteration of rear twb from time attack along with most of the mods I have mentioned here.

at calabogie the 1.25 bar works fine for me.

the rear bar just doesnt change roll stiffness it also changes the roll center.

eibach sway bars are properly made no doubt. Their tuning is up the folks who want that level of roll stiffness. I suggest that any one interested in buying arb fro their cars just check the material specs of the different sway bars for sale to make an informed decision as to what is best for your car...
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Convinced!
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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any news on when u will be shipping them out?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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I am wondering the same


Originally Posted by drew1991sf
any news on when u will be shipping them out?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Shipping them out? Havent they been available for like weeks?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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i ordered mine last month still hasnt been shipped
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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I had emailed OTTP and well when was that...last week I think and they were suppose to receive the hardcore bars earlier this past week. Then do they, OTTP, powerdercoat them? If so I can see it taking a bit.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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idk but its taking forever, but it seems worth it
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
i ordered mine last month still hasnt been shipped
Bars went out to OTTP this week, powdercoated I have been responsible for the manufacturing holdup...you can even get the very special maven plum crazy purple ones....
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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thats the one i ordered! lol its alright i hear powell makes good stuff, suprised u guys havent made upgraded control arms and more piston calipers
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
thats the one i ordered! lol its alright i hear powell makes good stuff, suprised u guys havent made upgraded control arms and more piston calipers
I was looking on powells site, hell yeah they make good stuff. I was like...gimme all cobalt parts! If its on the time attack SS and that took a massive beating it would be good for my SS I was actually asking a ottp employee to get me a list of parts they carry or could get from the time attack ss.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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wat did they say?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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in the pipeline : floating rotors 315 x 28 mm for TC and 312 x 28 mm for LSJ as a bbk kit. This is very cool a brake cooling kit, of course cabs very late and single pass and...and an original time attack front spoiler, and for road racers maybe a revised fuel system. Can you go 20 laps on a tank of fuel without stumble on a 2.5 mile track? If not that issue needs an answer as it sucks to run out of gas with just under half a tank of gas. Time Attack raced on 3 gallons of fuel.....6.8 lbs/ gal...
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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floating rotors you say.....

have any rpf1's left over from the race team?

Originally Posted by drew1991sf
thats the one i ordered! lol its alright i hear powell makes good stuff, suprised u guys havent made upgraded control arms and more piston calipers
the time attack rear axle mod works great....

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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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link?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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link to what?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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to the rear axle mod? or details on it
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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can u tell me wat u did to it lol. im clueless
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Powell Motorsprts. Time Attack Axle. That's it, haha
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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how much lol
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