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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Exclamation Stance Coilovers Issues, Please Help!!!

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I recently installed a set of used Stance gr+ coilovers. I first set all the damping knobs to 5 and had all locking rings out of the rear. The ride felt horribly rough, especially in the rear so I set the knobs to 8 in the rear and put the locking rings back in because my fender was very close to my tires in the back. And now it feels just as rough as it did before. The ride is much much worse than what I had with Sportline springs in. So I finally crawled under my car without jacking it up and saw that there is virtually no room for travel in the springs, There is about a half inch between the adjusting cup and the top plastic mount and I could see marks on the outside of the mount where the cup has bottomed out and hit. Below are pictures of the spring set up without the car jacked up. The second one shows the gap between the cup and the mount.

I know many are running these coils and say the ride is equal to or better than with lowering springs, Please Help me!! What am I doing wrong? Thanks

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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Better pictures would help first!
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 09sscalicobalt
Better pictures would help first!
well the pictures aren't meant to show much other than how small the gap is between the cup and mount, and the first is just showing that I have both locking rings in, spun down the whole way
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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How did you adjust the shock? Enough to keep the spring in at full droop? Or did you turn it all the way down
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dakotaspeir
How did you adjust the shock? Enough to keep the spring in at full droop? Or did you turn it all the way down
I read that I was supposed to jack up the axle to where the springs are just perched then adjust the length of the shock to that length and mount it then, so thats what I did.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spchrgd
I read that I was supposed to jack up the axle to where the springs are just perched then adjust the length of the shock to that length and mount it then, so thats what I did.
Hmm well you got that right so my help is no good
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dakotaspeir
Hmm well you got that right so my help is no good
How do you have your rears set up?
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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Looking like the same as your rears from the pictures
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dakotaspeir
Looking like the same as your rears from the pictures
and your ride is fine? what do you have your damping set to?
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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i have ksport but i never even messed with the shock, just kinda threw them in and everything seems fine for me haha.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BPacak
i have ksport but i never even messed with the shock, just kinda threw them in and everything seems fine for me haha.
i don't believe ksport has rear shock adjustments? i'm on Megan Racing and i turned my shock tubes up a little farther than i had to so when i released pressure on the jack the beam went down a little bit but didn't release the spring from the perch. and i have all 4 knobs turned to about 20/32.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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preload the crap out of the springs front and rear, at least 1/4 inch of good preload, with car up on stands and the wheels at full rebound (droop) . The length of the strut to knuckle attachment at the front lengthens or shortens the strut for your "loah" the spring preload gives as much shaft travel as you can get at the (silly) low heights you want. At the rear, the shock is the limiter for rebound travel, wind the seperate spring perch combo up as much as you can. That will make the best you can expect out of it. HSD do a better damped rear shock for that setup that will help, not sure how you can get it through stance. All the preload in the world wont make more than a 1/4 inch of ride height change but it will help make the combo work and ride better. Good luck.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spchrgd
I know many are running these coils and say the ride is equal to or better than with lowering springs, Please Help me!! What am I doing wrong? Thanks
Whoever told you that is a lying SOB.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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^^^ troof. I deal with coil over issues every week and there is no way, by their inherent design and the whole "one size fits all" concept that coil overs under 5,000 dollars a set, will ever match a really well engineered replacement OEM style coil spring.

Even with a good install, the inferior sealing in the cheaply made mass produced coil over cartridge, and the side load that gets put on the shock shaft as the cheaply made mass produced coil spring deflects under compression, and not even discussing the weak spring rates supplued, all this means it just wont give you a ride approaching anything for comfort, handling and performance.
it will give you the capability of lowering the car so you can hammer the crap out of the bottom of the car on driveways and speed bumps, neck out the suspension joints, break the cv joints and a whole raft of other really interesting issues.

But the car does look cool and they do work. except as noted.
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
^^^ troof. I deal with coil over issues every week and there is no way, by their inherent design and the whole "one size fits all" concept that coil overs under 5,000 dollars a set, will ever match a really well engineered replacement OEM style coil spring.

Even with a good install, the inferior sealing in the cheaply made mass produced coil over cartridge, and the side load that gets put on the shock shaft as the cheaply made mass produced coil spring deflects under compression, and not even discussing the weak spring rates supplued, all this means it just wont give you a ride approaching anything for comfort, handling and performance.
it will give you the capability of lowering the car so you can hammer the crap out of the bottom of the car on driveways and speed bumps, neck out the suspension joints, break the cv joints and a whole raft of other really interesting issues.

But the car does look cool and they do work. except as noted.
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