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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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basically what ive noticed on this board is certain people say one thing and everyone swings off of it having zero experience as well. or i could capitalize it like you as if it made a difference. ZERO. i havnt seen any comparison between these in actual tests like the header test thread a while back so therefore just reading numbers on the internet and having no proof, or let me capitalize that too PROOF to back up what you say means nothing to me on what youve done. so SMD is what im saying.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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basically what I've noticed is you said a false statement and I pointed it out...that is it. Now you have taken it to a "higher level" so to speak and say based on zero fact that they are similar to and I quote "another brand" which they are not. And have been tested/proven to not be. Making assumptions is one thing but then backing assumptions up with zero credibility is redonkulous.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by northvibe
basically what I've noticed is you said a false statement and I pointed it out...that is it. Now you have taken it to a "higher level" so to speak and say based on zero fact that they are similar to and I quote "another brand" which they are not. And have been tested/proven to not be. Making assumptions is one thing but then backing assumptions up with zero credibility is redonkulous.
You are right North vibe

While I have every spring rate for every spring i am darned if I will post this valuable information on the internet.

I will say this: as the Eibach coil binds at the front it rises to 840 lbs rate at 8 inches compressed height, which is about 300 lbs more in rate than a Pedders or an OEM spring. So the ride sucks. Answers OP questions, and backs up your comments Northvibe from what you have found.

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by northvibe
basically what I've noticed is you said a false statement and I pointed it out...that is it. Now you have taken it to a "higher level" so to speak and say based on zero fact that they are similar to and I quote "another brand" which they are not. And have been tested/proven to not be. Making assumptions is one thing but then backing assumptions up with zero credibility is redonkulous.
well im told on here that time can be shaven off of track times etc. id like to see it. a chart. a video. hell take me for a ride in the car while different springs are being tested and show me the facts. i have yet to see any therefore unlike many others on this site i will not swing off the pair just because person x has said zomg pedders are the best.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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damn i have been missing all the efights
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
well im told on here that time can be shaven off of track times etc. id like to see it. a chart. a video. hell take me for a ride in the car while different springs are being tested and show me the facts. i have yet to see any therefore unlike many others on this site i will not swing off the pair just because person x has said zomg pedders are the best.
Id love to give you a ride, hell I bet anyone with them would...you just dont live by me
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
well im told on here that time can be shaven off of track times etc. id like to see it. a chart. a video. hell take me for a ride in the car while different springs are being tested and show me the facts. i have yet to see any therefore unlike many others on this site i will not swing off the pair just because person x has said zomg pedders are the best.
Here you go. Pedders, 1.25 OTT hard core bars, OTT cabs on Hoosier R100 slicks.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Ask Steddy how my LS on 215's with Pedders rode better AND outhandled his TC on 225's with Sportlines, or ask him how much of a difference there is between the Sportlines and Pedders(hes had both on the same car)

Pedders are better than Sportlines, unless youre looking for the lowest drop. If you want the best handling and the best ride, Pedders.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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im about 95% sure i'm going to give my coilovers for SS/TC struts and pedders springs. The proof is there.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
Here you go. Pedders, 1.25 OTT hard core bars, OTT cabs on Hoosier R100 slicks.
ohhh am almost there just need the tires
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
basically what ive noticed on this board is certain people say one thing and everyone swings off of it having zero experience as well. or i could capitalize it like you as if it made a difference. ZERO. i havnt seen any comparison between these in actual tests like the header test thread a while back so therefore just reading numbers on the internet and having no proof, or let me capitalize that too PROOF to back up what you say means nothing to me on what youve done. so SMD is what im saying.
The test were done at my request by John Powell (the guy your calling out). You might not like what he has to say but it is 100% factual data. John was one of the first users to have pedders springs and the only redline i know of as well. He has ran practically every conceivable setup on his car (sportlines,pro kit, h&r, t3, ss/tc, etc) becuase that is his job.

Understand this man see's the race track more times a year than most do in there lifetime
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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The test were done at my request by John Powell (the guy your calling out). You might not like what he has to say but it is 100% factual data. John was one of the first users to have pedders springs and the only redline i know of as well. He has ran practically every conceivable setup on his car (sportlines,pro kit, h&r, t3, ss/tc, etc) becuase that is his job.

Understand this man see's the race track more times a year than most do in there lifetime
all i asked for and still do is comparisons not oh ive ran them all and these are the best answers. people saying oh he speeks troof is not an answer either.
say this is spring a these are its specs
this is spring b these are its specs
lay the data out for comparison by others and then the numbers will make it clear to everyone. then hell maybe you can grab more buyers just from showing that. like i said SMD show me data. not being an ass just asking the questions
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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He drives tupperware past porches 2-3 times a week lol what more proof do you need? What tests did u check out on that fake ram air hood before you slapped that baby on?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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He drives tupperware past porches 2-3 times a week lol what more proof do you need? What tests did u check out on that fake ram air hood before you slapped that baby on?
uncalled for and completely off topic. next.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
all i asked for and still do is comparisons not oh ive ran them all and these are the best answers. people saying oh he speeks troof is not an answer either.
say this is spring a these are its specs
this is spring b these are its specs
lay the data out for comparison by others and then the numbers will make it clear to everyone. then hell maybe you can grab more buyers just from showing that. like i said SMD show me data. not being an ass just asking the questions
The reason for not posting that information is becuase most is proprietary to the companies.

If a customer wanted to see something like that outside of a public forum that could be done in confidence.

There is no reason for anyone to lie about it, john ran sportlines and just about every other spring out there and tested them. So who would be more knowledgeable to talk about the subject then someone who tested them and puts them to the test weekly at different tracks across the country?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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The numbers you are asking for, like spring rates are available on most of the manufacturers websites. The rest of the numbers were gained by his own hard work and knowledge. You don't share that kind of thing for free. You do realize that Qwikredline is John Powell. Owner of Powell Motorsports, the company that built the Time Attack cars FOR GM Performance DIvision in late 04/05. If you don't remember the lowly cobalt smoked a 700hp Skyline.

If you don't think this guy knows what he's doing with suspension you should probably just stop posting in here.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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I think I'm going to pick me up some of these.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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you should. I'll break them in for you.... he he he
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Lol after driving through downtown LA last night, my car isn't happy. I think I need a re-alignment too. It's making all kinds of noises.
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Originally Posted by Stiner
I'd say its fairly relevant. You are making an attempt to argue about the function of a product with a guy that helped make the time attack car has been involved with racing for X amount of years and you have a cobalt with a fake ram air hood
lol you keep harping on something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. like the kid who sat in the back of the bus who stayed back a year in middle school thinking he was cooler then the rest

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The numbers you are asking for, like spring rates are available on most of the manufacturers websites. The rest of the numbers were gained by his own hard work and knowledge. You don't share that kind of thing for free. You do realize that Qwikredline is John Powell. Owner of Powell Motorsports, the company that built the Time Attack cars FOR GM Performance DIvision in late 04/05. If you don't remember the lowly cobalt smoked a 700hp Skyline.

If you don't think this guy knows what he's doing with suspension you should probably just stop posting in here.
did i say he didnt know what he was doing with his suspension? nope.
yes i understand who he is and what the car was.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
did i say he didnt know what he was doing with his suspension? nope.
yes i understand who he is and what the car was.
then i don't understand why you keep asking for more proof.

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Lol after driving through downtown LA last night, my car isn't happy. I think I need a re-alignment too. It's making all kinds of noises.
your car is fine haha. always worrying... silly goose.

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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
im about 95% sure i'm going to give my coilovers for SS/TC struts and pedders springs. The proof is there.
do it, the tc struts are wayyy better, no experience with pedders yet but very soon.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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then i don't understand why you keep asking for more proof.



your car is fine haha. always worrying... silly goose.
OTTP answered my question.
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
then i don't understand why you keep asking for more proof.



your car is fine haha. always worrying... silly goose.
I swear it is this time, and from the front too it wasn't doign it before. Plus I want to get that bizarre issue in the rear fixed too. I'm hoping since these aren't such a dramatic drop that will help.
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