zzp control arms vs. CABS and LCABS
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zzp control arms vs. CABS and LCABS
would there be much of a difference between buying zzp's control arms with the sperical CAB's and delrin LCABS installed vs buying the same bushings from ottp and installing them in the stock FE5 a-arm? well that is beside the 130 dollar difference. i ask because my caster is off on my car and i am thinking it is the bushings being worn out. 2006 ss/sc with 27k miles.
thoughts????
thoughts????
#2
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I'm not even sure if ZZP is making those anymore. The pictures show them with unsealed spherical bearings, which means they'll be dead in less than a year. John's sealed sphericals will survive winters. They are an OEM sealed type bearing (yes there are cars with metal spherical bearings, stock).
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
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I'm not even sure if ZZP is making those anymore. The pictures show them with unsealed spherical bearings, which means they'll be dead in less than a year. John's sealed sphericals will survive winters. They are an OEM sealed type bearing (yes there are cars with metal spherical bearings, stock).
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
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I'm not even sure if ZZP is making those anymore. The pictures show them with unsealed spherical bearings, which means they'll be dead in less than a year. John's sealed sphericals will survive winters. They are an OEM sealed type bearing (yes there are cars with metal spherical bearings, stock).
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
rear axle--
camber -.30*/-.33*
toe +.17/+.10
front axle--
castor +4.11*/+5.00*
k.p.i. (kingpin inclination) +3.35*/+4.54*
toe out on turns +.24*/-2.32*
camber -.46/-.49
toe +.06/+.06
my castor is all jacked up. .89 different. it is soppused to be 3.65+- .75
so left is within range but right is way off.
so would i just have to replace the front bushing and not the rear one?
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here are my alignment specs:
rear axle--
camber -.30*/-.33*
toe +.17/+.10
front axle--
castor +4.11*/+5.00*
k.p.i. (kingpin inclination) +3.35*/+4.54*
toe out on turns +.24*/-2.32*
camber -.46/-.49
toe +.06/+.06
my castor is all jacked up. .89 different. it is soppused to be 3.65+- .75
so left is within range but right is way off.
so would i just have to replace the front bushing and not the rear one?
rear axle--
camber -.30*/-.33*
toe +.17/+.10
front axle--
castor +4.11*/+5.00*
k.p.i. (kingpin inclination) +3.35*/+4.54*
toe out on turns +.24*/-2.32*
camber -.46/-.49
toe +.06/+.06
my castor is all jacked up. .89 different. it is soppused to be 3.65+- .75
so left is within range but right is way off.
so would i just have to replace the front bushing and not the rear one?
#6
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I'm not even sure if ZZP is making those anymore. The pictures show them with unsealed spherical bearings, which means they'll be dead in less than a year. John's sealed sphericals will survive winters. They are an OEM sealed type bearing (yes there are cars with metal spherical bearings, stock).
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
I'd be hard pressed to believe your caster would be affected much from a bad trailing CAB, since the front one should keep it reasonably located when not under force. I suppose anything is possible though.
Find a Cobalt with over 50k miles and stock trailing CABs.
Insert measurement tool between inner fender to where the tire starts (at bottom of car, on the Cobalt I use where the side skirt bolt is). Now measure the other side. Guaranteed they will be off. That is caster. One wheel is sitting closer/farther than the other. That is caster angle.
Trashed trailing CAB will cause a pull also. Since the bushing is shot the caster will more than likely alter while driving, which is why a pull may occur.
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