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Old 08-08-2015, 01:45 PM
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"All LNF's knock 3-4*" -Trifecta

So after finally logging my fully bolted stock turbo LNF, I've noticed we are knocking... the trims are fucked also. Yet Steven from trifecta views the file when its sent to him and thinks it needs 0 revisions.

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That's not cool. The knock is probably because the trims are off be both those issues are easily fixable
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Last I heard is he's not wanting to change it because supposedly they all knock/its false knock. I don't think thats false knock at all.

honestly about to get it hptuned.
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You should not have knock at WOT end of story, which you pedal command is 99.9% so WOT. Tip in knock is different but thats not WOT.

Also a lambda of 0.81 is stupid rich on direct injection and your LTFT at -9 with your STFT at +6 for a WOT pull is not good at all
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"All LNF's knock 3-4*" -Trifecta

They're just stupid. I tried to get a revision from them and they made everything worse and said it looked good to them.
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There should be zero knock at wot. Too rich as well
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Omiotek--- Do you tune?

I am very close to you and looking for a tuner for my lnf... Not looking for anything for free. I will pay.
Thanks!
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i do not tune cars for other people sorry man. i dont have the time for it. You can contact dave at performance autowerks in plainfield. he does a great job.
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I talked to them-- my problem is time... i cannot devote a day to go down there...
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Buy hpt then u can choose any tuner you'd like
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matt, no need to pimp dave.

Canadia. you were told all of this on faceyspacey. my posts mostly go un-read due to my name not being james.
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if people would actually listen to Area and Term this world would be a much better place hahaha. OP i say ditch that trifecta bs tune and get someone in your area to tune with HP tuners and youll be much happier.
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Originally Posted by hawkssoccer11
if people would actually listen to Area and Term this world would be a much better place hahaha. OP i say ditch that trifecta bs tune and get someone in your area to tune with HP tuners and youll be much happier.
Most people on facebook do not know my name anyways. kind of prefer it that way.
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matt, no need to pimp dave.

Canadia. you were told all of this on faceyspacey. my posts mostly go un-read due to my name not being james.
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Originally Posted by Area47
Most people on facebook do not know my name anyways. kind of prefer it that way.
that is true even though i dont have facebook my buddies do and everybody always talks about james this james that hahaha if only they knew lmfao
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The Cobalt Facebook pages are ruining the Cobalt's rep one day at a time.

Full of retarded little kiddies who actually think they know what they are talking about.

I had a local kid that never listened to my advice, but always came crawling back when his car broke or didn't run right.
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thats another reason why i dont have a facebook because i know i dont know a whole hell of a lot but ive learned everything on this forum since i joined back in 2009 or ive taught myself. the facebook world i agree is ruining the cobalt game one day at a time. ill go to shows and i see kids with cobalts and they start talking to me and i say where did you ever hear this stuff, they say facebook (getting tuned by james ) i said come to the forum and actually learn some stuff and get away from thinking james is god lol. i mean there was a kid who i was talking to that said he doesnt need a tune and he was a fully bolted and tuned lnf. he said guys on facebook said a tune wasnt necessary lmfao. i told him so do you like spending all that money on mods and not gaining any horsepower? he says i have plenty of power man im like 300whp i laughed and said no your not because have the guys on facebook ever told you about the learn back feature on the LNF's?? he goes no whats that i said you put whatever mods you want on your car and its not going to make anymore power then 260HP and 260TQ he then said oh i never knew that guess i need a tune hahahaha ******* kids theses days.
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Originally Posted by hawkssoccer11
thats another reason why i dont have a facebook because i know i dont know a whole hell of a lot but ive learned everything on this forum since i joined back in 2009 or ive taught myself. the facebook world i agree is ruining the cobalt game one day at a time. ill go to shows and i see kids with cobalts and they start talking to me and i say where did you ever hear this stuff, they say facebook (getting tuned by james ) i said come to the forum and actually learn some stuff and get away from thinking james is god lol. i mean there was a kid who i was talking to that said he doesnt need a tune and he was a fully bolted and tuned lnf. he said guys on facebook said a tune wasnt necessary lmfao. i told him so do you like spending all that money on mods and not gaining any horsepower? he says i have plenty of power man im like 300whp i laughed and said no your not because have the guys on facebook ever told you about the learn back feature on the LNF's?? he goes no whats that i said you put whatever mods you want on your car and its not going to make anymore power then 260HP and 260TQ he then said oh i never knew that guess i need a tune hahahaha ******* kids theses days.
perfect example man.

That's the exact kind of stuff I deal with as well.
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haha its just amazing at how stupid people are and i am so fortunate that the forum is not like this at all lol. we get newbs here but atleast most of them come in to learn lol. glad i dont have facebook because i would probably be kicked off for hurting some 16 year olds feelings lol
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So back to the OP, What exactly is that Grid showing? Is that the max knock registered for an entire log? Because its really hard to tell at what RPM the knock is at and under what conditions.

If the log was done before fully warmed then I could see 3 degrees of false knock easily
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You can see rpm, kr, maf, boost, load all in the pics he posted
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
You can see rpm, kr, maf, boost, load all in the pics he posted
Oh i didn;t correlate the RPM at the top.

Yeah 4.5 at WOT in that high of RPM is ridiculous. Especially at 13.5 timing.

Makes me feel a hell of a lot better about my shitty self tune with HPTuners
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Oh i didn;t correlate the RPM at the top.

Yeah 4.5 at WOT in that high of RPM is ridiculous. Especially at 13.5 timing.

Makes me feel a hell of a lot better about my shitty self tune with HPTuners
I wanna learn to tune, did you read any books or anything? I wouldn't be so nervous if lnf wasn't di, but I know di is a world on its own for tuning.
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Originally Posted by Kolt
I wanna learn to tune, did you read any books or anything? I wouldn't be so nervous if lnf wasn't di, but I know di is a world on its own for tuning.
LNF Guides
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LNF Guide Videos

Those two sections will help you so damn much. It's really not bad once you have done it awhile. It's totally worth it. Great learning experience.

My only issue with LNF is random false knock vs. true knock. It's really hard for me to tell the difference. And hard to tell when it's related to fuel trims or too much timing. I wish I had examples of the difference
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Originally Posted by Kolt
I wanna learn to tune, did you read any books or anything? I wouldn't be so nervous if lnf wasn't di, but I know di is a world on its own for tuning.
Feel free to PM me I'm always willing to help out


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