I should have clarified. The op has the stock eaton. I meant owners who can trap 112+ with the stock eaton

 

I'll agree on stock...intake exhaust probably. Once you get into the pulleys, there are maybe 1 or 2 cobalts that could keep up MAYBE.

 

not trying to sound shitty but do u own a cobalt?

 

lets compare a car in its class
how many mods would it take to get a termi near a supercharged C5 vette? Or a SC gto? Or a Stock LS2/LS3 C6.

The cobalt is not in the same class as the SC Cobra. I don't even know why epople compare them to their econo cars. Its in a totally different price bracket too

 

No I don't I am making input form the other perspective. When I was making ~440rwhp Pullied terminators were keeping right next to me or faster depending on other mods. A cobalt would need at least ~380fwhp to do just keep up when i was at that level. I'd say to relaly not have a problem with any pullied terminators you'd need at least 440-450fwhp and a lot of supporting mods to use that power. You guys have to keep in mind there are bolt on terminators trapping in the high 120's. There is no such thing as "light mods" for a terminator because with a grand it will trap 120mph.



oh you're one of THOSE

 

oh its different now when its a car that its meant to run against. The balts competition is other FWD cars and other 4-6 Cylinder cars. I just think its dumb to compare a companies top of the line econo car to a companies flagship car. Why not compare flagship to flagship.

 

I think it's dumb to compare a supercharged gto to a stock cobra just because the cobra comes blown stock. If we have to even everything up for it to be a fair fight, nobody would ever win any races, it would always be nose to nose. If you want to think of it that way (gto needs to be blown) then give the cobra another liter and a half of displacement . That kind of argument can never end. The fact is the cobra didn't really have any competitors. It sold in the mid 30's and destroyed everything in that price range. The closest performer from GM was the z06.

 

Exactly.... so yeah lets compare a cobalt to it.

 

I don't think that makes sense either...but you're the one that said it should be compared to supercharged vettes and gto's.

 

How exactly is a Blown GTO against a stock terminator a fair comparo? It's just a ricer excuse for making the slower car faster then a stock terminator.

 

if it was a 99-01 then yea i coudl see that but the terminator sry i doubt it very highly the stock 32v un supercharged ones are fast high 13's to low 14's but the terminator motors 03-04 on the other hand with diff internals and boosted are beast's i ve taken my buddys 99 cobra with intake and exhaust many a times yet my brothers 03 with a pully intake full exhaust and tuned by alternative automotive runs mid 11's ha

 

LS1 GTO Heavy and 350hp

Pre term Cobra

4.6 320 HP 500 lbs less in weight

slap a blower on both I would say its an even comparo

Term Cobra "390" HP

LS2 GTO "400" and weighs a lot more, so no so even.

I just don't get why you are bitching when i compare a blown V8 to a blown V8, when its okay to compare a blown 4 cyl to a blown V8.

 

Dude, it's quite simple; compare the cars as they come from the factory........ Forget about slapping this on this and that on this. The end.

 

Um last I was seeing in here they were comparing a heavily modded 4 Cyl to a Pullied and modded Cobra.....

So in that case I will compare a stock LS3/LS2 Vette to a Cobra Term. stock for stock who wins?

 

Down low its anybody win. Up top, the Vette has it undoubtedly.

I've raced one before and as long as you're not in 2nd gear at the same time as the Vette (e.g. Cobra in third while Vette in 2nd) you should be able to hold it off. After that, it starts to get ugly for the Cobra. Stock for stock that is.........

 

So when was a Corvette in the same class as a Cobra? Ones a sports car and the other is a pony car. Also why would you compare a modded car to a stock car?

No one is really trying to compare or even brag about beating a Cobalt with a 03/04 Cobra. Why, because everyone already knows what the outcome will be, most Cobra owners wouldn't even waste their gas or time on a Cobalt.

Your BS excuse of throw a blower on this car is a bitch excuse. Its run what you brung and know your place in the food chain. Weight is another BS excuse because your "fair" comparison to a Corvette means the Vette is 500lbs lighter than a 03/04 Cobra how is that fair?

The Cobra makes its power with a 4.6 motor with 8.5:1 CR compared to the 5.7-6.2L LSX motors with 10-11:1 CR. Point being they each make power a different way and one isn’t more "fair" than the other. In all actuality if you want to throw a blower on a GTO or Camaro go ahead and we'll see who makes the most power on STOCK motor. The 03/04s are good for 600-700rwhp and we won’t even throw the GT500s into this because I know of about 5 GT500s making 1000-1200rwhp on stock motors.

Once again you are comparing a sports car to a pony car. They really were never to be compared but the Cobra had no competition because it beat everything in its class so it had to be compared with higher cars.

 

You are just angry because TT/LS LsX cars wax your ass at the track, its okay...
Mod for mod, LS motors stomp the crap out of the ford pushrods all day long.

A sports car is a sports car. Some are faster than others.

Everyone gets all butthurt when you throw LSx motors in the mix

Also there are built N/A LS1's in the 8's @ 160 + (347's)
(And thats in the outdated Camaros and T/A's)

 

Wait are you telling me there is still a Cobra around that isnt pullied?

 

Looks like we have another chevy fanboi. The ford motors are sohc/dohc's. They haven't used pushrods since 1995. As for ford pushrods. The 351W could easily put a hurting on a LSX

 

HAHA really I'm jealous? You're the little boy with the slow car thats prolly been raped by so many Mustangs you lost count. I find it funny your talking **** to me about getting my "ass waxed" when I have a car that would rip the paint off your doors. If you want to talk **** step up with the big boys instead of talking through other people’s cars.

Ford pushrods ended in the Mustang back in 95. Mod for mod and $ for $ the LS Motors cant keep up with 03/04 Cobra motor or GT500 motor. Hell the safe limit on the LS9 is only 600-650rwhp, that being in a 6.2L. Hell Cobra guys were making that power back in 04 with 4.6L. GT500s are making 600rwhp with a exhuast, filter, upper and lower.

 

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/figured i show this car sorry wldnt let me post pic

 

I have owned 3 Mustangs, I appreciate all cars, but you cobra drivers think you are the fastest things on the street. And you are not. I don't race built or blown mustangs or cobras, its pointless, they are out of my league and I know it.

And the mustang I owned was a 97 S 281E, with a paxton novi 2000 swap... it wasn't slow, and no I wouldn't waste my gas on a cavi (Back when I had the Saleen there were no cobalts.) But also I didn't go into the cavi forums and boast about how much faster my car was than theirs, when they already knew stock my car was faster than 99% of theirs.

The Goat owners I can slightly understand, because its a large fast RWD cavi. And atleast its a GM. SRT-4 ownders I can see coming in here, because thats direct competition for most cobalts in here. And my ***** is big enough as it is, and I don't need a cobra to make it seem bigger.

Stangs have has their asses handed to them for years by chevys at the track, mustangs are cheap and fast, and everyone with a mullet seems to have one. Big f'n whoop, get over yourself, and find something better to do in the cobra forums.

And supras are getting over 800WHP on a 3.0L, 600HP on a factory built blown cobra motor isn't ****. SVT makes special vehicles, they are not "stock." They are as stock as a ZR1 is.

 

Mustangs are cheap and fast??

Everyone knows that chevy is the poor mans race car. It has been for years as the parts are so much cheaper!

 

I think that is how most fords run all the time is on 7 cylinders running like crap.

You need help. Cobras are weak end thread

[QUOTE=04YellowGT;3969688]HAHA really I'm jealous? You're the little boy with the slow car thats prolly been raped by so many Mustangs you lost count. I find it funny your talking **** to me about getting my "ass waxed" when I have a car that would rip the paint off your doors. If you want to talk **** step up with the big boys instead of talking through other people’s cars.

Ford pushrods ended in the Mustang back in 95. Mod for mod and $ for $ the LS Motors cant keep up with 03/04 Cobra motor or GT500 motor. Hell the safe limit on the LS9 is only 600-650rwhp, that being in a 6.2L. Hell Cobra guys were making that power back in 04 with 4.6L. GT500s are making 600rwhp with a exhuast, filter, upper and lower.[/QUOTE

I dont know where you get your info from probaly a mustang magazine but everything you just stated was all bullshit.

 

so wheres this rematch......?