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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VictoryRed06
well im pushin 300 hp right too guys so yes hp/weight ratio does have a play in this...being that its been so cold lately too its gonna help me out more then a n/a car...dont forget that our gears are longer so while hes shifting to the next gear im holding or gain. and you guys are forgeting the most important thing....driver mod! lol

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------- SS-----SRT-8
1st----4.05----3.59
2nd---2.02----2.19
3rd---1.35----1.41
4th---0.98----1.00
5th---0.69----0.83
FD----3.94----3.06
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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The SRT-8 is also as aerodynamic as a brick, so at higher speeds drag WILL slow them down. They will still get to speed but slower than a car that can cut through the wind more easily..
Actually, the 300 lineup have one of the best wind tunnel ratings in its price range. Aerodynamics are a little more complicated than how something looks. I would put my money on a 300C having a better wind drag rating than a SS/SC.

However, this kill is actually very beleivable. The 300 lineup, though great cars, tend to attract people who don't necessarily know much about modding.....
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VictoryRed06
well im pushin 300 hp right too guys so yes hp/weight ratio does have a play in this...
I really doubt you have 300whp..maybe 300 bhp
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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How many ppl that are saying it can't be done have actually raced a300c?

Ya, at the track with my old Stage 2 and exhaust i put up a good fight, against a 300c at the track he won but barely, with a good tune i could see him beating one. Another reason for its low quarter mile time is the AWD of course, which racing from a roll will hurt the car

Buried to the carpet, the cast-iron 5.7-liter V-8 sounds just like Petty's old Plymouth (if it had mufflers the size of a milk truck). Posting 5.3 to 60 and 13.9 in the quarter at 102 mph, the 300C runs with Mustangs and 350Zs. It muscles right past anything approaching its size and price, including the 270-hp (and 3480-pound) Acura TL, which is good for 5.7 seconds to 60. It puts the Mercury Marauder on a hauler home to Mama.
13.9 @ 102mph is deffinatly beatable with his mods. Take right from C&D

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...emi-page2.html
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JMAc88
How many ppl that are saying it can't be done have actually raced a300c?

Ya, at the track with my old Stage 2 and exhaust i put up a good fight, against a 300c at the track he won but barely, with a good tune i could see him beating one. Another reason for its low quarter mile time is the AWD of course, which racing from a roll will hurt the car



13.9 @ 102mph is deffinatly beatable with his mods. Take right from C&D

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...emi-page2.html
not to be mean but WTF??? he's talking about beating a 300c SRT8 6.1 hemi. AND they do not come in AWD so once again WTF???
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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yea ugliness kinda ruins it. its like an sti...sweet car, very quick, awesome mod potential, but it is SOOOO ugly, i could not own one. an evo on the other hand....
Really? I like the 06-07 STIs! I think they're sexalicious! =p

Originally Posted by LandonElf
Actually, the 300 lineup have one of the best wind tunnel ratings in its price range. Aerodynamics are a little more complicated than how something looks. I would put my money on a 300C having a better wind drag rating than a SS/SC.

However, this kill is actually very beleivable. The 300 lineup, though great cars, tend to attract people who don't necessarily know much about modding.....

Exactly. Liek I said. He probably didn't know how to drive and just wanted a fast DUB car or something.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Sorry, just saw 300c, not SRT-8 version. They guy I raced at the track said they were all wheel drive, i just assumed he knew what he was talking about...guess not. Anyway even the SRT-8 only achived a 13.5 @ 105

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...t-8-page2.html
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JMAc88
Sorry, just saw 300c, not SRT-8 version. They guy I raced at the track said they were all wheel drive, i just assumed he knew what he was talking about...guess not. Anyway even the SRT-8 only achived a 13.5 @ 105

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...t-8-page2.html
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VictoryRed06
well im pushin 300 hp right too guys so yes hp/weight ratio does have a play in this...being that its been so cold lately too its gonna help me out more then a n/a car...dont forget that our gears are longer so while hes shifting to the next gear im holding or gain. and you guys are forgeting the most important thing....driver mod! lol
Do you have a DYNO slip to back this up? With 300whp I find it beleivable you took on an SRT-8 300C, but I don't see you getting 300whp on the mods you listed.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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only thru the aeroforce gauge...which is a rough estimate i know...but bigworm on here is gonna get me further tuned from the reflash and ill have him print up the dyno sheet so i can post it on here....please believe when i say that im really in the ball park of 300 hp.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 02:05 AM
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300 hp close 300whp not a chance

Originally Posted by BACK2GM
VERY beliveable good kill! and Ive never seen a srt8 trap 108 there more like 103-105. I have less mods than victoryredo6 and I was trapping 105 all night at the track last night.
got any slips?

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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SRT-8 DO NOT come in AWD.. none of them.. whether it be the 300, Charger, or Magnum.. the V-6 and 5.7L Hemi are the only ones with AVAILABLE AWD Option.

We had a guy on the dyno with a Charger SRT-8 with intake and exhaust and he only pushed 385rwhp.. these cars are difficult to mod because computer programming and tuning is extremely difficult and no one has yet to come out with a proper solution, and the fact that the motors are pretty much using full potential right now.

Why don't you believe Victory has 300fwhp? you guys high? wtf.. lol.. I'm pushing 231fwhp with just a god damn intake..

I have beat a 300C straight up, not by a load, but enough to know I can beat one; but not an SRT-8.. yet.

It isn't all about 1/4mile traps, bla bla ******* bla..

Drag kicks you in the ***** at 120mph (202km/h), the gearing, the power band of the vehicle when its in a gear at what RPM.. get where I'm going with this? Good..

Excellent kill btw.. sorry to make a rant but I'm sick of this SRT- bag o' **** **** fest lately.. HEEEEMMMIIIIIII... Let's see what those cars are doing after 100g+k's..
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JMAc88
Sorry, just saw 300c, not SRT-8 version. They guy I raced at the track said they were all wheel drive, i just assumed he knew what he was talking about...guess not. Anyway even the SRT-8 only achived a 13.5 @ 105

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...t-8-page2.html
posted above was a video of an SRT8 going 12.9 bone stock.

Originally Posted by VictoryRed06
only thru the aeroforce gauge...which is a rough estimate i know...but bigworm on here is gonna get me further tuned from the reflash and ill have him print up the dyno sheet so i can post it on here....please believe when i say that im really in the ball park of 300 hp.
I think ppl would believe you if you had the mods to back it up. Im not saying this didnt happen just that by the numbers it shoudn't have happened.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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SRT-8 DO NOT come in AWD.. none of them.. whether it be the 300, Charger, or Magnum.. the V-6 and 5.7L Hemi are the only ones with AVAILABLE AWD Option.

We had a guy on the dyno with a Charger SRT-8 with intake and exhaust and he only pushed 385rwhp.. these cars are difficult to mod because computer programming and tuning is extremely difficult and no one has yet to come out with a proper solution, and the fact that the motors are pretty much using full potential right now.

Why don't you believe Victory has 300fwhp? you guys high? wtf.. lol.. I'm pushing 231fwhp with just a god damn intake..

I have beat a 300C straight up, not by a load, but enough to know I can beat one; but not an SRT-8.. yet.

It isn't all about 1/4mile traps, bla bla ******* bla..

Drag kicks you in the ***** at 120mph (202km/h), the gearing, the power band of the vehicle when its in a gear at what RPM.. get where I'm going with this? Good..

Excellent kill btw.. sorry to make a rant but I'm sick of this SRT- bag o' **** **** fest lately.. HEEEEMMMIIIIIII... Let's see what those cars are doing after 100g+k's..
trap speed is a very good indication of how a car will do from a roll. the torque curve of the 6.1 is like a shelf, so i don't know where you are going with the power band idea, and the srt-8 has better gearing for a high roll (taller) and like someone else said the 300 is actually very aerodynamic although it may not look like it. all of thse are moot points. now i didn't say he didn't beat the srt-8 and i didnt mean to start an argument. i was just saying if he doesn't have alot of mods (cause there are no mods in his sig i had no idea what he had) it would just not happen realistically.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wleee
SRT-8 DO NOT come in AWD.. none of them.. whether it be the 300, Charger, or Magnum.. the V-6 and 5.7L Hemi are the only ones with AVAILABLE AWD Option.

We had a guy on the dyno with a Charger SRT-8 with intake and exhaust and he only pushed 385rwhp.. these cars are difficult to mod because computer programming and tuning is extremely difficult and no one has yet to come out with a proper solution, and the fact that the motors are pretty much using full potential right now.

Why don't you believe Victory has 300fwhp? you guys high? wtf.. lol.. I'm pushing 231fwhp with just a god damn intake..

I have beat a 300C straight up, not by a load, but enough to know I can beat one; but not an SRT-8.. yet.

It isn't all about 1/4mile traps, bla bla ******* bla..

Drag kicks you in the ***** at 120mph (202km/h), the gearing, the power band of the vehicle when its in a gear at what RPM.. get where I'm going with this? Good..

Excellent kill btw.. sorry to make a rant but I'm sick of this SRT- bag o' **** **** fest lately.. HEEEEMMMIIIIIII... Let's see what those cars are doing after 100g+k's..
What are 100g+k's????

And you are wrong, the Grand Cherokee SRT-8 comes in AWD.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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grand cherokee srt 8's are pretty sick i seen a bone stock one run 13.8 before but nice kill i belive u got the win!
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
trap speed is a very good indication of how a car will do from a roll. the torque curve of the 6.1 is like a shelf, so i don't know where you are going with the power band idea, and the srt-8 has better gearing for a high roll (taller) and like someone else said the 300 is actually very aerodynamic although it may not look like it. all of thse are moot points. now i didn't say he didn't beat the srt-8 and i didnt mean to start an argument. i was just saying if he doesn't have alot of mods (cause there are no mods in his sig i had no idea what he had) it would just not happen realistically.

i have my mods posted in the 1st page i believe
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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i believe it i would think the auto tranny would take a second to upshift which would give him a small jump. stg2 2.8 I/H/E w/o cat would probably put him in the 250-260 whp range
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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The srt8 shifts pretty hard, there is hesitation but not much. gotta love rich friend who let me driver their cars
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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lets not have a repeat of the gto vs. ss/sc thread jus went on and on and on if he says he did it he did it nice kill bro
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro




you better be fairly modded to back that up....the srt-8's trap high 108's stock....that is totally ss/sc rapage from a roll, and it runs low 13's stock, so that car will all around just rape an ss/sc stock and if he was modded he should have raped you with pretty much full bolt ons for you unless you were running like a 2.5" with supporting mods.
I just hit 108 trap speed with my car and I only have intake, and stage II. So I think its possible for a Stage II to do this. =D
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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108mph with Stage 2 and an Intake????????????

This story looks very well full of BS.

My friend Brett's (600WHP S/C Mustang) mom drives a 300C. He drove it while we were building up his GT last year. I raced him in my SS/SC Stage 2 a few times from a dig and roll.

I won all of the races except one from a dig because I spun like a bitch. But I will say it was much closer than I was thinking it would be. From a dig it was close in the 1/8 but then I would pull. From a roll (from 40mph) it was close for a few seconds then I would pull hard.

I also raced a Charger SRT-8 at our last cruise night and got raped from a dig and roll.


Some of these posts are becoming hard to beleive anymore. The food chain around here is greatly distorted.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tityrous
grand cherokee srt 8's are pretty sick i seen a bone stock one run 13.8 before but nice kill i belive u got the win!
Didnt someone post a race up about getting beat by one of the cherokee srt 8s?.... I wont even front though... I had my car for about 2 weeks, so i was still learning how it liked to be drove.... i was on the freeway going like 65 in 4th gear... and i rolled up on a a srt8 charger... before i even had time to downshift to third he was gone... i tried to catch up, but the best i got was 2 car lengths to him :-(... I dont know how fast i was going when we slowed down either... im not really into watching the speedo when im doin crap like that... id rather pay attention to whats going on on the road.

Now that Ive had my car a while and ive figured out where the power is Id like to have another run in with one.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MoMoney
What are 100g+k's????

And you are wrong, the Grand Cherokee SRT-8 comes in AWD.
Again, refer to which vehicles I was talking about.. I never mentioned the Jeep.. that thing is another story..

what is 100g+k? like 100,000miles.. I know my motor will last a while.. but I'm saying those Hemi's don't have high reliability ratings. Maybe they do, i'm not sure.. a couple people i know work at Chrysler dealerships and tell me they aren't what they thought they were now that people are putting mileage on these cars..

******' Hemi.. lol.. i don't give a **** if its faster than me in reverse.. its interior is still made out of the same plastic my garbage bin is.. haha..
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