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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Oh well, for all the non-believers... Like I said... I will race my friends as soon as we get the chance from a dig, 35 and 75 roll. That will be proof enough! I heard the same thing for weeks after I beat that Evo IX MR. "that's not possible.. so on so on."
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BACK2GM
Well Im not saying sreet racing is ok but maybe you should find out how you would do against one before claim that another member's story is false without trying it first hand.
if that was directed towards me, i wasnt saying i dont believe him. i just know how much power those srt8s have. an impressive win i must say.

and thanks E-thug for the 1/4 mile times on them.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by e-thug43v3r
w3rd, free/highway racing is the ghey!



they average low 13s

quite a few have ran 12.5s and 12.6s
if they average low 13's and he runs a 13.5 wouldn't that mean he could not have beaten one?
how much would the gearing of an srt-8 slow it down at high speed?
i think just the displacement thing helps him out on the top end. aren't our cars limited to 136 electronically?

Originally Posted by LaserblueSS
if that was directed towards me, i wasnt saying i dont believe him. i just know how much power those srt8s have. an impressive win i must say.

and thanks E-thug for the 1/4 mile times on them.
no.. rest assured he was talking to me

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
if they average low 13's and he runs a 13.5 wouldn't that mean he could not have beaten one?
how much would the gearing of an srt-8 slow it down at high speed?
i think just the displacement thing helps him out on the top end. aren't our cars limited to 136 electronically?



no.. rest assured he was talking to me
Hey man im not trying to start an argument with you or anything like that.I've raced an srt8 charger at thet track before so I know that victoryred06 is'nt bullshiting anyone.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BACK2GM
Hey man im not trying to start an argument with you or anything like that.I've raced an srt8 charger at thet track before so I know that victoryred06 is'nt bullshiting anyone.
what did the guy with the srt run when u raced him?
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
if they average low 13's and he runs a 13.5 wouldn't that mean he could not have beaten one?
how much would the gearing of an srt-8 slow it down at high speed?
i think just the displacement thing helps him out on the top end. aren't our cars limited to 136 electronically?



no.. rest assured he was talking to me
Stock your cars can only go to 158-159.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
what did the guy with the srt run when u raced him?
He a 13.446 @ 103.04 with a 2.054 60'
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BACK2GM
He a 13.446 @ 103.04 with a 2.054 60'
oh wow.. i had it in my head they would do like 13.1 or better

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler-30...slip-4848.html

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
oh wow.. i had it in my head they would do like 13.1 or better

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler-30...slip-4848.html
There's always that one or two that will beat the average times by .5 or so if you look at the botom of the page it list more times that are similar to what I posted.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Doesn't matter... the stock ones trap around 105... that's what you need to look at.

You can't say "They do 13.0 in the 1/4 and we do 13.6... so there's no way we can beat them." Not saying that is what you are saying... but trust me. Camaro SS's do the 1/4 in 13.0 at 100+mph... and i beat them.

Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
oh wow.. i had it in my head they would do like 13.1 or better

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler-30...slip-4848.html
Just like our Timeslips... there are a select few who can get 14.1 and 14.2 stock... the rest average 14.4-14.7...
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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omfg.. am i the only one that thinks normally when it comes to a roll.. it does not matter what your 1/4 time is when racing from a dig.. YOUR ALREADY MOVING!! your at one constant speed, and then you hammer down.. it doesn't matter..

my buddies Thunderbird S/C ran a 14.5.. my best was a 14.7.. i don't remember stupid trap speeds.. anywho, we got on the highway.. and I finished him real quick because his OVERDRIVE kicked in.. he had no more *****..

at the dyno here we had a Charger SRT-8.. exhaust and intake the guy only put down 385RWHP!!

so there is many chances a Cobalt will take an SRT-8 vehicle.. they are not gods gift to speed these cars!! god damn you want a fast car buy a bike.. lol..
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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i totally believe the story. i had my chick in the car when i raced one from light to light. he got a nose up on me from me losing traction but i was pulling him in quick by the time the road curved. stage 2 only mod at that time.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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so there is many chances a Cobalt will take an SRT-8 vehicle.. they are not gods gift to speed these cars!! god damn you want a fast car buy a bike.. lol..
Ummm, you can not compare the 2. Some will not even consider a bike so a car is the way to go. Plus bikes and cars feel way different. There is something about a fast car that a fast bike can't touch. It's the ability to get 2900 pounds+ moving quickly. Bikes are cool and the straightline acceleration is great but a fast car with the mass it's pushing around feels much better IMO!
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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I found this charger
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by STIwannabe
I found this charger
it might not be stock
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Perfect time for a post STIwannabe!!! Your S/N brings up a good point! STi's... can run high 12's stock... but a Stage2 Cobalt manages to beat them on the highway. A perfect example of how you can't use 1/4 times to gauge whether or not a car can beat another car in a Roll Race. AND We've got the video to prove it! Not only that... I've got the video of me pulling on a VF23 fed, 305whp, 13.1 second WRX. And soon I will hopefully have the video of me pulling on an SRT-8 300C!
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
Perfect time for a post STIwannabe!!! Your S/N brings up a good point! STi's... can run high 12's stock... but a Stage2 Cobalt manages to beat them on the highway. A perfect example of how you can't use 1/4 times to gauge whether or not a car can beat another car in a Roll Race. AND We've got the video to prove it! Not only that... I've got the video of me pulling on a VF23 fed, 305whp, 13.1 second WRX. And soon I will hopefully have the video of me pulling on an SRT-8 300C!
i dono about this... 350whp is 350whp...drivetrain power loss means nothing when you talk about wheel horsepower. 13.1 for a 350whp rex is TERRIBLE. that's a good 70-80whp more than a stock sti, and it is running slower times? something is fishy... did the stage two balt pull on one of the new sti's with the weird front grill? those are the high 12's/real low 13's ones, the others are not quite as fast.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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i dono about this... 350whp is 350whp...drivetrain power loss means nothing when you talk about wheel horsepower. 13.1 for a 350whp rex is TERRIBLE. that's a good 70-80whp more than a stock sti, and it is running slower times? something is fishy... did the stage two balt pull on one of the new sti's with the weird front grill? those are the high 12's/real low 13's ones, the others are not quite as fast.
Read it again bud... 305whp. And that is right on cue for what the VF23 puts out.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Read it again bud... 305whp. And that is right on cue for what the VF23 puts out.
alright even so, he should still have made you his bitch. i'm just saying, this is in no way the norm. whp is whp no matter how you spin it. his gearing is very close to yours, he doesn't weigh much more than you at all, and he is making probably a good 40whp+ more than you are and he should be in boost from a roll no problem. again im not calling bs, im just saying, he really should have beat you, and you are making it sound like "well everyone thought i wouldn't win against this car, but i did, so my car must be faster and every stage 2 ss/sc must be faster..." it's a good kill no doubt, i am just saying...
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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alright even so, he should still have made you his bitch. i'm just saying, this is in no way the norm. whp is whp no matter how you spin it. his gearing is very close to yours, he doesn't weigh much more than you at all, and he is making probably a good 40whp+ more than you are and he should be in boost from a roll no problem. again im not calling bs, im just saying, he really should have beat you, and you are making it sound like "well everyone thought i wouldn't win against this car, but i did, so my car must be faster and every stage 2 ss/sc must be faster..." it's a good kill no doubt, i am just saying...
Understandable. But I've seen it as a pattern. Cars running High 12's/low 13's with traps around 105... i usually end up pulling on them. If you wanna talk to the guy with the WRX, you can... I've got his mod list as well. We are buddies.

Here's the video: Stage 3 SRT vs. 13 Second WRX
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
alright even so, he should still have made you his bitch. i'm just saying, this is in no way the norm. whp is whp no matter how you spin it. his gearing is very close to yours, he doesn't weigh much more than you at all, and he is making probably a good 40whp+ more than you are and he should be in boost from a roll no problem. again im not calling bs, im just saying, he really should have beat you, and you are making it sound like "well everyone thought i wouldn't win against this car, but i did, so my car must be faster and every stage 2 ss/sc must be faster..." it's a good kill no doubt, i am just saying...

all you do is troll around cobalt kill threads and say how there bullshit you need to get a life buddy seriously, and the funny thing is that your not even very smart reading > you
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
...and the funny thing is that your not even very smart reading > you
HAHA That's funny, it makes me laugh.

But 8cd03gro has earned his right to be on this site, he is a respected member.

I don't mean to say EVERY Stage 2 SS is faster or anything like that. I'm just saying that people should doubt a fellow member's ability to beat another car based on 1/4 mile time. ESPECIALLY from an 80mph roll, which is where this thread started.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
all you do is troll around cobalt kill threads and say how there bullshit you need to get a life buddy seriously, and the funny thing is that your not even very smart reading > you
the funny thing is i have called you out specifically on multiple bs posts with no logical response from you. i was saying what i said because if someone doesn't, many of the members here will go around saying "i can easily take a vf23 wrx. this guy did it with a stage 2 plus a few mods, so since i have more, i should smoke him no problem." you know that is true, and my statement wasn't at all hostile toward him. i do the same thing on the mustang forums when people post kills, for example there was a 4.0 that took an ss/sc a while ago and people started saying, "blah blah they are so overrated," and i stuck up for the ss because it is the faster car and that isn't negociable. You need to get down off that thrown of bullshit and read my posts. none of the posts i make are bullshit or degrating unless people start **** with me. In addition to that, the fact that i more than likely know more about your car than you do, really helps me to not get too pissed when you make posts like this.

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Understandable. But I've seen it as a pattern. Cars running High 12's/low 13's with traps around 105... i usually end up pulling on them. If you wanna talk to the guy with the WRX, you can... I've got his mod list as well. We are buddies.

Here's the video: Stage 3 SRT vs. 13 Second WRX
damn those are some nice ass cars. are you the camera car? i can hear a blower...

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HAHA That's funny, it makes me laugh.

But 8cd03gro has earned his right to be on this site, he is a respected member.

I don't mean to say EVERY Stage 2 SS is faster or anything like that. I'm just saying that people should doubt a fellow member's ability to beat another car based on 1/4 mile time. ESPECIALLY from an 80mph roll, which is where this thread started.
i totally agree, which is why i always say the street is not the track and anything can happen, i just do what i do because people on forums take one perseon beating a car as, "that car is really not that fast, my ____ can take that no problem" sorry if i came off the wrong way, but i am just trying to keep people from bench racing saying they can smoke 300+whp rexes and cars of that sort. i think you know what i was getting at...again good kills.


i dont want to turn this into a **** war because it will innevitably end up with me getting banned or some stupid **** like that. i'm not going to argue with you anymore 2.4, it is not worth me getting banned, so keep talking **** if you like, i am not going to respond to you.

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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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I think people give way too much credit from one car to another....people hear about how fast stock times are for like a WS-6 or something with a big motor and hp, and then when you hear about a car thats in a total diff class beats it..you guys totally start calling bs....i honestly dont think the better half of you have raced as much as i have...im a damn good driver and i think you are forgetting about key factors such as cold weather and gearing for this particular story.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:38 AM
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Ummm, you can not compare the 2. Some will not even consider a bike so a car is the way to go. Plus bikes and cars feel way different. There is something about a fast car that a fast bike can't touch. It's the ability to get 2900 pounds+ moving quickly. Bikes are cool and the straightline acceleration is great but a fast car with the mass it's pushing around feels much better IMO!
lol i know bro, hence the "lol" at the end of the sentence.. it was meant as a joke.. i just wanted to lighten up the mood a little bit..

go Cobalt!!
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