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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 04:13 AM
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Because of him I feel like a douche canoe every time I crack Vtec in my daily driver.
Did someone say VTEC ?
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^Cobalt SS T/C, me, 300c Hemi V8 modified, full bolt on S2000, full bolt on SVT Cobra

Cobalt rapes all of us, well the Cobra is over 300 whp and they haven't directly raced..... BUT it being a Ford, the T54 took a crap and he had to drive home in 1st at 20 mph for 10 miles later that night!

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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 04:26 AM
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back on topic :P

Si driver couldn't drive, which is very common.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MillerCycle

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Can you not comprehend? Was pretty self explanatory
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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The Si's aren't particularly quick stock and I believe that they are pushing about 180ish WHP and 140 tq which is less than a stock SS SC.
About 30 whp & 50 wtq less than a stock SS/SC....

Their gearing makes them quick though....

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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Thats a nice daily driver. I could do without the plate, and exhaust. Just looks like your trying too hard... keep it stealth.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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But yeah they're disappointingly slow I had a go with the latest gen one (8th I'm pretty sure) on my way back from college and I took him pretty good, and yeah he was loud as #@$! he was giving it hell beside me with my windows down and it was deafening

Its a shame though because I'll admit I do like the way the newer ones look, and I LOOVVVEEE the Si's transmissions, those 5 speeds shift smooth as butter.

oh and I'm fully bolted/tuned/5speed
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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But yeah they're disappointingly slow I had a go with the latest gen one (8th I'm pretty sure) on my way back from college and I took him pretty good, and yeah he was loud as #@$! he was giving it hell beside me with my windows down and it was deafening

Its a shame though because I'll admit I do like the way the newer ones look, and I LOOVVVEEE the Si's transmissions, those 5 speeds shift smooth as butter.

oh and I'm fully bolted/tuned/5speed
I thought the Si had a 6 speed??
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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yeah it does^ my bad I automatically just seem to call standards 5 speeds
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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The majority of SI owners are ignorant teenagers or ignorant 20-25 year olds. They dont know how to mod their car or what actually gains power. Match that with a lack of driving skill and you will see a lot of slow ones. I gurantee with me behind the wheel it would be much closer. Not saying Im amazing but it surprises me how many people dont know when to shift or even race from a roll....

Miller, dont go to other forums looking for a fight, it makes us look bad. Keep it on V6P
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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a POS rustang automatic losing to an S2000? not impressed. besides even an s2000 isn't that fast..


on topic... i raped an 8th gen civic badly... that same civic beat an SS/SC with intake and exhaust a week later. a member on here actually and he as pretty upset about it... just sayin'

as for a 2.4 NA cobalt beating an 8th gen? just can't see it unless the 2.4 isn't stock or the civic driver can't drive.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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well this got out of hand haha
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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little bit^ besides, maybe the SS S/C needed a driver mod
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
a POS rustang automatic losing to an S2000? not impressed. besides even an s2000 isn't that fast..


on topic... i raped an 8th gen civic badly... that same civic beat an SS/SC with intake and exhaust a week later. a member on here actually and he as pretty upset about it... just sayin'

as for a 2.4 NA cobalt beating an 8th gen? just can't see it unless the 2.4 isn't stock or the civic driver can't drive.
his 2.4 isnt stock
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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geez. whats up with everyone and videos. Not everyone video tapes their races. And some races arent planned so theres no time to get your camera out.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Doesn't everyone have a dash mounted go pro on their dash at all times? sheesh I thought all cobalts were required to have that
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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no..
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by StevoElSupremo
little bit^ besides, maybe the SS S/C needed a driver mod
the race was from a roll... he said it passed him around 190km/h.. not sure driver mod plays into that one.. lol
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Civic Si's are quick, but not overly impressive. If you have anything with a good torque curve you will take one down. I test drove a few 8th gens before getting my ss\sc and the cobalt is almost night and day for how hard it pulls. Then again, between making torque and not having to wait until 55-6000pm for vtec to cross over to make any power I can see why.

Honda is very good at one thing, making their cars fun to drive. In my opinion the SI was a more "fun" car to drive, it felt like you were flying at all times because the engine is loud and gets louder with the cross over. It also handled very well, and obviously had better interior quality.

Also I just wanted to add a friend of mine has a 09 matrix xr..it has the 2.4 I think its around the same specs as a 2.4 ss. Anyways the matrix beats(1-2 car lengths) 8th gen si's all the time. All it has is a intake. Again torque comes into play. But like everything, if you want to see which car is actually faster go from a stop.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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2013 accord 0-60 in 5.6 1/4 in 14.1 @ 276hp

not to open a can of worms but my buddy has a 6 speed accord coupe. he says it's decently fast.. maybe setup a race for the spring and see how fast it is.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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thats the only honda i would own.The brand new v6.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Mostly stock fwd drive cars doing 40 rolls to claim which is faster is like the two nerds fighting at recess to see who is the best fighter in the whole school.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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Mostly stock fwd drive cars doing 40 rolls to claim which is faster is like the two nerds fighting at recess to see who is the best fighter in the whole school.




noone is claiming either car is the king of the highway.. it's simply a comparison. get over it.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
2013 accord 0-60 in 5.6 1/4 in 14.1 @ 276hp

not to open a can of worms but my buddy has a 6 speed accord coupe. he says it's decently fast.. maybe setup a race for the spring and see how fast it is.
The V6-6speeds Accords are decently fast. Its not in the same class as a Cobalt SS/TC but for a big heavy car it moves. Since its not boosted it costs more to see significant gains, but it is much more fun to drive and comfortable than the Cobalt. Seeing people's faces as I walk their 5.7 GTO or stock STI with my Accord is the best. Id gladly give up performance that the TC has for my nicer interior and driving experience.

Since I work at a Honda dealer I get to drive the new 2013 v6-6speed and they are awesome. Nothing like getting paid to drive brand new cars. I have a 2004, and with all my mods its a bit faster than the 2013 but the styling of the new Accords cant be beat IMO. Plus there will be parts for them in no time.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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lol my dad sold his cobra mustang so he could buy my brother the focus for his 1st car
...the sacrifices fathers make for their kids...
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