2007 Honda Civic SI vs 2006 Cobalt SS/SC
09-18-2009, 03:44 PM
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Honda needs to turbo their si from the factory for it to be worth a damn. It is a nice car and shifts very smoothly but seriously. 138 ft lbs of torque at 7900 rpms? Thats just gutless.
09-18-2009, 03:47 PM
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I guess I dont understand how an incentive at purchase of a new vehicle is correlated with resale many years down the road of that used. People dont buy a car and sell it 1 yr later to make money...even a honda depreciates. Like I said its the honda buyers that keep the price up. If they want to buy a 300k 1985 civic for $5-7k fine, I wouldnt touch that pos. you can only sell a car for $X if you have a buyer willing to pay that. There was a mugen civic si on the lot up here for almost a year, hell I bet its still for sale, for 27-28k. No one in their right mind would pay that much and they wont budge the price.
Evo's sold cheap because mitsu though they were about to pull out of the US. I only had a 1k incentive on my SS, I negotiated the price to where I wanted it. So the resale on your vehicle should be really low, actually extremely low...
Evo's sold cheap because mitsu though they were about to pull out of the US. I only had a 1k incentive on my SS, I negotiated the price to where I wanted it. So the resale on your vehicle should be really low, actually extremely low...
09-18-2009, 04:01 PM
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Here's what honda needs.
A V8. Done. I think they are afraid of the number 8.
I think the Si is a nice car for what it is, but like what's been said before about them when they came out and it was the big GTI vs. Si debate, the Si won a lot of the challenges, but if you gave the owners $2k to spend on their cars to make them faster in every way...the GTI would school the Si hands down. It's just physics.
A V8. Done. I think they are afraid of the number 8.
I think the Si is a nice car for what it is, but like what's been said before about them when they came out and it was the big GTI vs. Si debate, the Si won a lot of the challenges, but if you gave the owners $2k to spend on their cars to make them faster in every way...the GTI would school the Si hands down. It's just physics.
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09-18-2009, 04:07 PM
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09-18-2009, 04:08 PM
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Here's what honda needs.
A V8. Done. I think they are afraid of the number 8.
I think the Si is a nice car for what it is, but like what's been said before about them when they came out and it was the big GTI vs. Si debate, the Si won a lot of the challenges, but if you gave the owners $2k to spend on their cars to make them faster in every way...the GTI would school the Si hands down. It's just physics.
A V8. Done. I think they are afraid of the number 8.
I think the Si is a nice car for what it is, but like what's been said before about them when they came out and it was the big GTI vs. Si debate, the Si won a lot of the challenges, but if you gave the owners $2k to spend on their cars to make them faster in every way...the GTI would school the Si hands down. It's just physics.
09-18-2009, 04:22 PM
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Here's what honda needs.
A V8. Done. I think they are afraid of the number 8.
I think the Si is a nice car for what it is, but like what's been said before about them when they came out and it was the big GTI vs. Si debate, the Si won a lot of the challenges, but if you gave the owners $2k to spend on their cars to make them faster in every way...the GTI would school the Si hands down. It's just physics.
A V8. Done. I think they are afraid of the number 8.
I think the Si is a nice car for what it is, but like what's been said before about them when they came out and it was the big GTI vs. Si debate, the Si won a lot of the challenges, but if you gave the owners $2k to spend on their cars to make them faster in every way...the GTI would school the Si hands down. It's just physics.
The GTI is an even bigger hunk. An si can run full bolt ons and N20 with 2k. The GTI can get full bolt ons, and a tune for 2k.
A N20 si with full bolt ons will take a bolted tuned GTI anyway. GTI's are ******* slow as dog ****. They need engine work and a big turbo to become fast.
09-18-2009, 11:17 PM
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That si walks bolt-on c5 z06's... for fun
No doubt that car is sick... i've seen it in action lol.
after all said and done, his bill was a pretty ~$9k lol
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09-18-2009, 11:42 PM
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i worked for the dealer i bought my car from, i got my SI for invoice 19 and some change, and then when i traded it in for 17800 only a year later so if someone buys the car for 24000 and then trades it in for 17800 thats a slight depreciation
09-19-2009, 05:55 AM
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There was no barely losing to that car. When the turbo finally spooled it was nearly an instant 3-5 cars. As Adam said, that car beats far beyond any slightly modded ss/sc. It would be a good race for a fully bolted and tuned ss/tc. I think the higher torque would net the ss a win, but we will probably never find out. There aren't any modded ss turbo around here.
Although he has lots put into that kit, its still an awesome car. I do agree that most Honda's suck, but this one is just sick. I don't think the shop used hondata. Some other type of tuning method. If you will go back to the youtube video and read the comments left I believe the shop says what they used to tune his car with.
All in all, I do want my re match that he agreed to. Hopefully I can give him a run for his money next go around!
Although he has lots put into that kit, its still an awesome car. I do agree that most Honda's suck, but this one is just sick. I don't think the shop used hondata. Some other type of tuning method. If you will go back to the youtube video and read the comments left I believe the shop says what they used to tune his car with.
All in all, I do want my re match that he agreed to. Hopefully I can give him a run for his money next go around!
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