Hey Guys My Friend Just Bought A Z06....do U Think I Have A Chance??

 

there is no 2007 evo's yet

 

depends. what you got done to your car?

 

bro there isn't and probably never will be a street legal cobalt with stock internals that will beat a z06

 

Will do,cant wait to start modding this thing

 

I'd go with the New GT-R It's bad, get the 6 cyl with Twin turbo. 450-500 Hp AWD
V8 model 500HP AWD which ever. its a bad ass car. looked at in a mag the other day. dont remember wut its called

 

he is wrong, there is a new SUPRA coming out in a few years and the nissan gtr is going to be over 80 grand. the supra is going to be priced to compete with the new camaro and redesigned mustang gt. (they are upping the power of the gt to around 400 in 2009 and the v6 to around 270) the next few years are gonna be great years for gearheads!

and the gtr is going to either come as a tt6 or a v8, they havent completely decided yet, but most magazines and industry vets think it will probably be the v8 so it will appeal more to the american car buyer with that much money. it is going to be an amazingly bad ass car, and will probably be a z06 killer, but it is a supercar, just like the skyline gtr's were.

 

not arguing if there is or not just relating to the original post.

 

I think you will be beat from a dig and from a roll. Turbo's can start to spool from a roll quicker then from a dig because they launch at high high rpms in a low low gear. If your lucky you may win. After all it is a new car and he needs to learn how to drive it best. Good luck. BTW, he paid 10k more then you? If he beats you tell him after you put 10k into your car you will beat him by 10 car lengths.

 

sorry dude my bad

 

I have heard that toyoto would not make another supra BUT that was at the NAIAS 2005. Since than there has been ton of buzz pics rumors and potenital stats. All things that usually signify a car that will be produced evetually.

And for those that dont like the thread, dont ******* post.....its that ez.

no worries man

 

to each his own,you pay for what you get

 

ummm let's see here. toyota said in 2005 that they cannot confirm plans of a new supra (doesn't mean no to those of you that can't read) and R&T just said in this months issue that toyota has confirmed they will be building a new SUPRA sometime within the next few years. jesus christ you person. 1. you are in no way more intelligent than some of the idiots in this thread (the guy that thinks he has a tbe on his sc car). 2. you need to do research before you run your mouth. 3. YOU ARE NOT COOL AND NONE OF US THINK YOU ARE.


"end rant and flame"

have a nice day idiot.

 

Sorry, but I'll chime in on this one.

The ONLY chance you have from a dig is if the guy tries to "launch" at 1500-2500 RPM If he doesn't know how to launch yet, he will at least know enough to rev to 5000 and slip the clutch and take you. If he knows how to 2-step launch (I just recently learned) he can push the clutch in, floor the gas and hold it while it bounces off the rev limiter, and then let the clutch out very quickly without just dumping it. If he does that, forget it!

From a roll, if he is a stock IX and you are stock it will be a good race...The IX puts down anywhere from 240-260 whp depending on dyno. Speaking of which, when everyone here states dyno numbers, what kind of dyno is the "accepted" dyno to read from? If you are modified with at least an exhaust and a tune, you will take a stock Evo from a roll, but as many have said - try to find a stock one.

OK, enough talk about what could happen, now I have to make a few commments on the "$10K more" argument...

1. Nice "ricer" argument! That is the lamest excuse ever and I hate when people try to use it.
2. If I beat a car that costs $80K, I would not expect them to get out of the car and say "Well you know if I take $50K of parts out of my car I could put bus lengths on you"
3. Even if they are available, are you really going to put 10K into your car? And when you do and are still beat by, oh I don't know - a Z06, are you going to pull out the "Well if I put another $40K into my Cobalt I'll put 40 car lengths on you" argument?
4. If you don't like to get beat by a more expensive car simply because it is more expensive, then don't race it. Period.
5. Exactly what mods are available for the Cobalt that would cost 10K that will allow you put these 10 car lengths on someone?

If someone beats you, why can't you just say good race?? Enjoy what you have, race anyone you want, but don't make excuses afterwards...There will ALWAYS be someone faster than you.

To the original poster - Good Luck

 

Oh, and there is no 2007 Evo. There is a new IX SE that has some cosmetic differences, but is the same car as a IX, and so it's possible that he thinks that since it's a new model that it means it's a 2007. Still a 2006.

 

I dont like the new looks of the supra what ever its gonna be called. I like the looks of the Gt-R tho, and it prolly will be a Zo6 killer, but being AWD possibly might not be good from a Roll like the Sti or The Evo But from a Dig, thats a diff story.

 

OK, I guess I'll say this here too...it IS NOT AWD that is "bad" from a roll - it is simply that the cars that are AWD (STi, WRX, Evo) have all had smaller turbos that have a certain amount of air that they can produce.

I put down 362 WHP and 388 torque - that number does not magically go down at 40 mph, 80 mph, or 120 mph, nor did the tuner only run the car to 80 MPH on the dyno just to produce those numbers. Wheel horsepower is wheel horsepower. Now, being AWD, I need to create more engine horsepower to get the same amount of wheel horsepower than a front or rear wheel drive vehicle would, but once I do I don't lose it on the road just because of my speed. I don't understand why this point is so hard for people to understand or why it so misunderstood by so many people.

The GT-R with a v-6 and big enough turbo to put out 450 HP is not going to fall on it's face from a roll If there is any way I can afford one when it comes out, I can guarantee I will take it over a Z06 or Shelby, but we'll see.

 

I agree there are some idiots, but if you take your time and go back and read onesi's statement, he was talking about the Evo having a TBE, not his car. Reading comprehension pwns you.

 

Either way you look at it you'll most likely lose from a roll you'll definitely have a better chance, but I know i'm stage 2.8" and K&N intake and I can beat one by about three cars from a roll, he just had a tune also here is a vid of me racing an STi which runs hand in hand with an evo pretty much, hes stock and i have the mods i listed, and he didn't get "raped" so idt u have much of a chance, https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drag-racing-52/cobalt-ss-2-8-k-n-vs-sti-vid-36137/

 

Ok, im sry. i worded it wrong. It creates more of a drag for the car. so up at speed, its a lil slower gettin moving again then the FWD or RWD becauses it has to split the power two seperate ways. Im not trying to say your wrong, I just wanna see if i have the correct Idea of how it works and everything.

 

The only hope you have is that his car breaks. and i wouldnt hope much for that considering its a new car.
maybe if he said..."no, lets do it from a roll not a dig." but theres probably not much chance there either. that car is a rocket off the line. from a roll, i'd say you'd still be left behind, but not as much as if it were from a stop.
low 13 second 1/4 stock.
good luck

Rick

 

No, sorry but that's still wrong. It has nothing to do with getting AWD moving compared to a FWD or RWD. Yes, there CAN be turbo lag if you are going slow enough that you aren't spooling it up yet, but that has nothing at all to do with AWD, FWD, or RWD.

The power loss from sending it to all 4 wheels is already figured into the wheel horsepower. In other words, my engine HP is probably around 450 because I lose 20% to the AWD drivetrain. That same 450 engine HP in a FWD or RWD should produce 382-405 wheel horsepower because you should only lose 10 or 15%. Make sense?

 

He's not exactly wrong. It takes longer to get more mass up to speed, period. It usually becomes a pretty moot issue with cars that are done right with properly sized turbo's, etc., You shouldn't notice it much at all. My biggest question is: Where are all the titanium alloy and carbon fiber half-shaft's at?

 

I doubt it'll be a z06 killer. It might be as fast but I'd highly doubt it will 'kill' it. And even if it does the 'super vette' z07/SS/Blue Devil/Sting Ray etc... what ever name it will have is expected to have 650hp from a slightly smaller boosted v8 (not the ls7) and be around 100k.

 

awd= greater drivetrain power loss and alot more weight. so it is worse from a roll end of story. if you dont understand i can make this simple for you. an awd car is distributinig power to ALL FOUR WHEELS AT ALL TIMES. when you distribute power to more areas, you use more materials to do so. this will add weight, and since the energy created by the engine has to travel thru more materials and gearing, more energy will be converted into heat and will not reach the wheels. this is a fact, not an opinion. obviously the gtr is not going to be a slouch from a roll, but against an equally equppied rwd car it will not be as fast.