gotta race for 50$ who's gonna win?

ss/tc: mods in sig

300c srt8: intake, exaust, 6.1 hemi

 

auto or manual?

 

auto

 

With that tune you should be able to take him.

 

vid or ban

 

id say youd win barely

 

i beat a charger srt8 on 21 psi but idk if it was a 5.7 or a 6.1 is the 6.1 supposed to be really fast?

is the 300c really heavy?

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...9f37e5d4d2.pdf

 

13.2 is pretty quick for the 1/4 mile. but from a roll im betting it would be quite close.

 

4212lbs

Still traps 109mph stock..

Ever been to the track?

 

SRT8's only have the 6.1.

 

from a dig or roll? I'd assume dig since money is being put on the line.

I think they are somewhere in the 4000-4400lb range for weight.

I'm going to say that you will probably lose from a stop. There is a SRT 300c around here with an intake, exhaust, and mail order tune that's running 12.6s at 112mph. A simple search on SRT forums shows that high 12s at anywhere from 108-113 is possible with bolt-ons. That will be VERY hard to beat on the street from a dig.

 

its gonna be from a roll no dig lol damn if hes tuned it not looking good but he says hes not

 

pookie - fix your sig again. I saw it come in only once and now it's back to normal.

 

the srt8 300c is the lightest of all the srt8's, but is still no light weight. they still tip the scale around 4k pounds. If its an auto and you go from a dig, you'll have a lot on your hands. From a roll, you outta win. I pulled two cars on a manual one from a roll (dont remember what mph, it was two years ago already) and we were both stock.

good luck!!

they only trap so high because they have trouble hooking. 2.1-2.2 60' times are a normal thing for those cars

 

I've driven a Magnum SRT-8 (not quite the same as the 300 but close enough) and yah it's got alot of ***** but it really is a heavy, heavy car. From the dig RWD > FWD but from a roll I think you will take him by a couple cars.

SRT-8
425 + ~20 = ~445HP (w/ Intake Exhaust) @ 4210lbs = 9.5lbs/hp

You
~325WHP = ~365HP (I'm assuming your at about that power with your tune and converting to crank HP with a general rule of thumb of 13% drivetrain loss for a FWD) @ 2900lbs = 7.9lbs/hp


I know lbs/hp isn't the end-all-be-all but it is a good measure especially from a roll. So comparing his 9.5lbs/hp to your 7.9lbs/hp you should have an edge.

 

From a dig you may start to reel him in but not in time. Roll shouldnt be a problem

 

Anyone who says that does not know a thing about drag racing and I will argue the statement until my death...

Imagine if the car hooked and didn't spin or bog. You are saying the MPH would go down? The car only has 1320ft to accelerate and spinning is wasting time and land.

 

My dad and I just drove one yesterday,He was looking to trade his Cadilac in on it.We both drove it and really weren't impressed,mainly because of the weight.everyone is quoting 13.2 like it is what they all run and will trap 109.My local track I see times all over the place.13.4-14.0 I think from a roll,you win by at least a car assuming 120 is your stopping point.Even from a dig I give it the same outcome.We tried like hell to get a good launch in that thing and couldn't.It lit up the tires at 1500 and it shifted to 2nd pretty quick.Good luck and post the outcome.

You should never post on here again please.2 years ago when you raced this incredibly RARE manual SRT 300C were you in Oz?or with Santa Clause?Because all 3 don't exist.And Slowstang adressed the higher trap quote.I believe that is sig worthy my friend thanks for the laughs.

 

its 60-100 takes 6.5 seconds.....

Yours should be in the ATLEAST low 5 second range. BYT's is 4 Flat and a TF tuned car hung right beside him.

 

hmmm... it sounded manual. i could be wrong. like i said it was two years ago... dont go getting your panties all in a wad. honest mistake .

and as far as the trap thing goes... when my car was stock down the factory tires on stock 18's my traps would always be in the 107.xx or 108.xx when i had a 2.0-2.1 60'. when i had a 1.9-2.0 60' they would consistently be 106.xx. I dont see how that's so hard to believe? when your whole drive train is spinning and it finally hooks the force that is put to the ground will be greater than the smooth power delivery that you get when youre not spinning. Just because you have one expert "slowstang" on your boards that says otherwise doesnt make everything he says fact.

again, my bad on the manual srt8. like i said... it was TWO years ago, but i stand by slower 60' times typically equating to a higher mph. If you dont believe me, widen your horizons beyond cobaltss.net. maybe you should take a trip over to the drag racing section on the ls2gto.com. Theres plenty of time slips and evidence that what i'm saying is true.

 

What a surprise, power to weight numbers! Just throw those out as they don't apply ok? Don't use them again!

Shouldn't be a problem, isn't this the same car that was just posted where it hung next to a stock LS1 F-bod? I saw the Tuned TC pulls a car and a half to 110 then the pull stops!

Now common sense tells me the same thing you are arguing, but I think I have heard this saying abunch before as well. I am not sure which way to believe but I will just say a 1mph swing in trap speeds is dependent on the error factor in racing...

Oh jesus are you serious? Who measures that??? You do know if you are taking 0-60 times and subtracting them from 0-100 times then momentum isn't taken out of the factor!

On the other side though that would be a good test for cars now a day instead of the 40-60 and 60-80 top gear test...

Again I have heard that too but common sense tells me other wise, so I will chalk it up to the error factor.

Yes manuals behind the SRT-8's just came out but does anyone know can they be had in the 300C's and Chargers? That would make an awesome 4 doors sports sedan like the old CTS-V!

Tyler

 

Genius perhaps you should read my post again "I know lbs/hp isn't the end-all-be-all but it is a good measure especially from a roll. So comparing his 9.5lbs/hp to your 7.9lbs/hp you should have an edge."

No **** that power to weight numbers aren't everything, gearing, tires, driver skill, aerodynamics...... all have an effect, however comparing the two numbers gives you an idea of how the two cars compare especially in a race from a roll. If you would like a physics lesson on how the more something weighs the more work is required to make it move (please challenge me on this as I'm an Engineer and would have a field day arguing this with you ) I would be happy to entertain you.

 

Some what of a point taken (should have read more indepth), you are still dropping those numbers but like you said so much more applies which is why those numbers aren't taken very seriously here (sorta, the balt boys live and die by it though it seems).

It doesn't always give a tale on how it will end up. Two examples, Mercedes AMG sedans and diesel cars, those don't follow the power to weight book at all.

Also it isn't a good measure especially from a roll, it is the opposite. It takes less work to move an object moving then it does from a stop, that's why heavier cars are at less of a disadvantage from a roll then a stop...

Oh great another I am an engineer and am smart. I studied Maritime Systems engineering for two years before I realized it wasn't what I wanted to do, so I changed majors. I will gladly "challenge" you all high and mighty (only because of how cocky you come off with that statement) but I have a feeling we are going to be arguing the same points...

***** in your court Einstein!

Tyler

PS, just because you are a Chemical Engineer or Electrical Engineer or what ever doesn't mean you know jack about power to weight, inertia, rolling mass, ect... Neither do I but we all probably took the same basic Physics classes and Engineering classes before moving on to our specific fields of study in Engineering.

Are you an Engineer or studying to by an engineer, big difference!

 

AMXGUy1970 why do you even post on here? Every thread that's a V8 vs cobalt you chime in to talk smack about the cobalt.

also 60-100 makes complete sense if you are roll racing (that's what these guys are going to do)