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Old 09-27-2007, 11:32 AM
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330awhp Mazdaspeed6 VS. 340awp Evo9

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damn da evo got spanked!
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Why is that MS6 so much faster? Evo must be a horrid driver cuz the Evo should be faster due to 10whp and less weight.
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Damn, didnt know those cars were quick
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Damn, didnt know those cars were quick
They arent thats the thing lol.

They are heavy as hell.

And for some reason I dont think either car was near the AWHP as they claim.

And a K04 turbo at 330awhp is time bomb.
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sigh lol, ive been saying this in 3 threads that got locked. First off that is not a stock turbo ms6, that ms6 def has a gt3071R and is tuned. When you tune a ms3 ms6 the area under the curve is far better than the area under the curve of an evo. The torque curve becomes a picnic table and you hold boost and power till redline unlike 5600rpm stock.
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It's a turbo car and like every turbo car it can be upgraded.

I know ATP makes a nice GT30 turbo kit for them.
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Originally Posted by laloosh
sigh lol, ive been saying this in 3 threads that got locked. First off that is not a stock turbo ms6, that ms6 def has a gt3071R and is tuned. When you tune a ms3 ms6 the area under the curve is far better than the area under the curve of an evo. The torque curve becomes a picnic table and you hold boost and power till redline unlike 5600rpm stock.
Well if it is a GT30r MS6 then I can believe its faster. None of that was mentioned...

But 330awhp on a GT30 is kinda sad... a GT30r can easily make 450whp to tell to up the boost already and get a better tune. But definately a cool MS6, if I raced him and he was keeping up with me or didnt get anhiliated, I would be like
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Haha nice /\
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Originally Posted by Orlandoech
Well if it is a GT30r MS6 then I can believe its faster. None of that was mentioned...

But 330awhp on a GT30 is kinda sad... a GT30r can easily make 450whp to tell to up the boost already and get a better tune. But definately a cool MS6, if I raced him and he was keeping up with me or didnt get anhiliated, I would be like
Direct injection is a tad harder to program for then basic fuel injection.
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regardless the MS6 is very impressive with whatever he added to make him pull like that....
to me that's the way the MS6 should be!

so how much $$$$ are in the MS6 to make it that fast???? any ideas?
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regardless the MS6 is very impressive with whatever he added to make him pull like that....
to me that's the way the MS6 should be!

so how much $$$$ are in the MS6 to make it that fast???? any ideas?
GT30 kit is like 2500 dollars
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Originally Posted by suburbanrobot
regardless the MS6 is very impressive with whatever he added to make him pull like that....
to me that's the way the MS6 should be!

so how much $$$$ are in the MS6 to make it that fast???? any ideas?
if it's as easy to mod as the ms3, not much.
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Originally Posted by suburbanrobot
regardless the MS6 is very impressive with whatever he added to make him pull like that....
to me that's the way the MS6 should be!

so how much $$$$ are in the MS6 to make it that fast???? any ideas?
cpe ems 600
tbe 1000
intake 300
gtr7031R 1500
intercooler 500
thats it for power mods. The rest is all cosmetic/handling

taht car could make alot more power, its just running out of fuel cause the intank fuel pump is maxed out. Once some1 figures out how to replace that pump hes driving a 400whp or blowing it up.

Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
GT30 kit is like 2500 dollars
if by kit you mean turbo and tbe than yes, if by kit you m ean turbo and flanges than your off by 1000

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Originally Posted by laloosh
cpe ems 600
tbe 1000
intake 300
gtr7031R 1500
intercooler 500
thats it for power mods. The rest is all cosmetic/handling

taht car could make alot more power, its just running out of fuel cause the intank fuel pump is maxed out. Once some1 figures out how to replace that pump hes driving a 400whp or blowing it up.
the reason I was asking.... is those cars are dirt cheap used (compared to what it stickered for). I would drive one if it was that quick .... but 4K in parts + install is not a bargain

thanks for the input guys
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GT3071R Bolt-on Turbo Kit with 100% of hardware components including but not exclusive to, Garrett ball bearing turbo with ATP proprietary exhaust housing, high pressure internal wastegate assembly, V-band output module, 3” Stainless downpipe, 3” inlet pipe set, fittings and fasteners. Turbo is efficient up to 22 psi on the MS6 2.3L turbo engine and can produce 450 crank HP as configured with supporting mods and proper tuning. Uses stock exhaust manifold and very easy to install. The GT3071R is absolutely the best spooling turbo on the market capable of making 450HP. Highly recommended for a very broad powerband with a lot of "area under the curve



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you got the whole kit, i was talking about the turbo upgrade only
http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/pr...roducts_id=686

Also i havnt read to much about turbo upgrades but im having a hard time believing you can simply bolt this on and make 330whp with no tunning. On the stock ecu none the less
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Originally Posted by Orlandoech
They arent thats the thing lol.

They are heavy as hell.

And for some reason I dont think either car was near the AWHP as they claim.

And a K04 turbo at 330awhp is time bomb.
And 340awhp on a 16g Evo isn't a ticking time bomb?

Originally Posted by laloosh
you got the whole kit, i was talking about the turbo upgrade only
http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/pr...roducts_id=686

Also i havnt read to much about turbo upgrades but im having a hard time believing you can simply bolt this on and make 330whp with no tunning. On the stock ecu none the less
Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
GT3071R Bolt-on Turbo Kit with 100% of hardware components including but not exclusive to, Garrett ball bearing turbo with ATP proprietary exhaust housing, high pressure internal wastegate assembly, V-band output module, 3” Stainless downpipe, 3” inlet pipe set, fittings and fasteners. Turbo is efficient up to 22 psi on the MS6 2.3L turbo engine and can produce 450 crank HP as configured with supporting mods and proper tuning. Uses stock exhaust manifold and very easy to install. The GT3071R is absolutely the best spooling turbo on the market capable of making 450HP. Highly recommended for a very broad powerband with a lot of "area under the curve
Everytime I read one of your posts I get a better feeling for how dumb you really are.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
And 340awhp on a 16g Evo isn't a ticking time bomb?

Actually no, not even close. This is very easily achieved without Alcohol Injection.



Everytime I read one of your posts I get a better feeling for how dumb you really are.
lol.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
And 340awhp on a 16g Evo isn't a ticking time bomb?





Everytime I read one of your posts I get a better feeling for how dumb you really are.
No a 340whp evo an a 16g isnt a time bomb actually...
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
And 340awhp on a 16g Evo isn't a ticking time bomb?





Everytime I read one of your posts I get a better feeling for how dumb you really are.
i think thats a quote off their website? just throwin that out there
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Hard to disprove a video that's for sure.

340WHP on the Evo IX turbo is far from a time bomb. The TD05 can crank out some good power.

I would imagine boost comes in just as fast if not slightly faster in the Evo with the stock turbo.

The Evo is lighter. I would imagine the gearing is a little more aggressive.

Still, a win for the MS6.
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