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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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most are not fast by any means tho, if yours is cool
and what happened to you? At first you were all cool...then did a 180 and now your eclipse is king ****? No no I don't think so sorry. Try saying that to an owner of one of them "grandma" cars or "soccer mom" cars.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Skipped most of the thread.. sorry.

I raced a GT V6 on Saturday. Took him from a dig, but not by much. This was with stage 2 + airbox mod. He never really stood a chance, but I didn't quite "smoke" him. It was a slow and steady pull away from him. Ended up about a car length ahead by the end of 3rd.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rissa
most are not fast by any means tho, if yours is cool
and what happened to you? At first you were all cool...then did a 180 and now your eclipse is king ****? No no I don't think so sorry. Try saying that to an owner of one of them "grandma" cars or "soccer mom" cars.
Yeah he is...didnt you notice.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Wait what? If mine is cool what happened to mine? You don't make sense. And please read the previous post. I have nothing that I have said bad about the cobalt what so ever **** I likt them for what they are. I love chevy pretty much any model. Even the aveo (which have you seen the SS supercharged motor swapped one in a magazine pretty tigh) And second like I've stated before and will again for some of are slower readers!! I know my car would loss to many cars. And I'm not getting on my high horse. But with a little research and reading on BOTH cars and motors you can simply see. But the point being is mod for mod a cobalt is not in the same category. And second of all as for the grandma car and soccer mom cars as long as its an evo or sti its fine by me. Those cars are bad ass is what I meant. And that's what people call them. **** the evo is the face of mitsubishi performance.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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hmmm eclipse fanboi mind driving to Arizona im sure Blown4Banger would love to play w/ you
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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wait couple months after i get my mivec tuner and ill show you many!! on stock internals and again probally no more then 15 psi.. give me a walboro fuel pump bigger injectors and a good tune i say ~550 whp... and still on 15psi. if i turned the boost up to even 20 psi the motor would take off without the car lol.. and second please point me in the direction on where you can fine that turbo kit for a cobalt.. cause did a google search didnt find ish.. closes i got is 140+ whp on stock motor so if my math does me right your putting about 100 less whp which isnt to close.. and 500 whp street legal cobalt with stock internals.. again still couldnt find it so if you could point me in that direction please!. and like ive said before in this forum and on even 4g eclipse forums cobalt is a stout car for what it is.. good bang for your buck.. but big whp numbers on a stock block or no motor swap(which with the car being so small dont think any other gm motor would fit) is still yet to be proven.. if you think your gonna be the talk of the town for a 400 whp car with again MORE then 20 psi and supporting mods either your from a really really small town or everyone drives civics lol..
Yeah good luck with reaching 500whp on 20psi on that supercharger. I'll laugh when you fry your supercharger and your motor. As I mentioned, both the hahn turbo kit and zzp twincharger kit have produced over 400whp on stock motor. Dont quote me some **** you found on turbokits.com for hp #'s. I also never said the 500whp cobalt was on a stock motor, but it is street legal. Show me any 4g eclipse that has hit those #'s on a stock motor, they haven't and I highly doubt the stock motor will handle those numbers. I'm not saying the 4g eclipse isnt a stout car either...you were acting cool, but now you've done a complete 180. The Ripp supercharger for the eclipse is impressive, so great, good luck with it. But dont come on here talking about how you think what the cobalt can and cannot do since you obviously dont know that much about it. Your right 400whp is the talk of the town, but you make it seem like your 4g eclipse is. That is of course if you really do have a supercharger.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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man i gotta give it to the new eclipse.. it has potential but is heavy.. the eclipse has always been a performer(wit the right mods)... and i have to be honest.. the 4g63t eclipses mod for mod outclass the cobalt ss sc.... its just a fact... but the ss sc is faster from the factory...
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by clipse48
nice man nice.. what kinda turbo are you currently running?
i know what you mean though i need a new clutch pretty bad.. my stock one doesnt agree with that power launching from a dig what so ever.. getting a clutch masters stg 2. im hoping they come out soon enough with a reliable turbo kit for the 4G so i can go that route.
In this post you seem like your relatively stock.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by clipse48
how is that ricer homie.. saying if you add a supercharger to a car is rice? hahahahhahahahaha thats some funny ****.. if i said add a neon kit or some sick ricer wings and a NOS sticker ill beat your car then i would understand... your really starting to sound like a mustang cobra owner.. "umm umm my car has a smaller motor so so so i run a supercharger to make up for where my car lacks in displacement" dude dont start making the chevy sound like a bitch complainer cause it has a smaller motor... and your wack srt-4 also. point being you show me a cobalt or srt-4 that makes 425 whp and 430wtq on 10-12 psi on pump gas with stock internals and nothing more then a i/h/e.. ill retract every statment ive made on this and any forum. or in fact show me a cobalt that makes over 450whp with stock internals and nothing more then i/h/e i will be amazed
Do you even know boy that our motors are designed to be low compression motors hence they make more power as PSI goes higher. Hence your motor could make similar power due to be a high compression motor. So your comment is just out of place
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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i wanna race!!! . i have a GT. someone in albuquerque, new mexico? stock ss/sc ill walk it. i gurantee you that.. stg 2 ss/sc is what i want to race. oh and as far as 400 whp on a cobalt i would sure like to see that car too...
Along with this...if you were supercharged why would you want to race a stage 2 ss/sc...obviously it wouldnt stand a chance.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Sure would love to. And I think if my memory serves me right I was talking to him a little earlier in the forum. Pretty cool guy. Kind of a drive though. But dam I see a lot of SS cobalts driving around here I was hoping one would want to "PLAY". But I guess if I got to go to arizona or find someone in az with my setup to find the one "street legal" cobalt that would like to race I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by darrion
im talking about the Cobalt SS/SC has like what 204 or 207 horse power at the crank and the 06 Eclipes GT V6 has 256 horse power at the crank
You good sir, don't know what you're talking about.


How about this..LETS END THIS END THIS AND AGREE TO DISAGREE and/or race 2 stockies with 2 good drivers. geez.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by clipse48
Sure would love to. And I think if my memory serves me right I was talking to him a little earlier in the forum. Pretty cool guy. Kind of a drive though. But dam I see a lot of SS cobalts driving around here I was hoping one would want to "PLAY". But I guess if I got to go to arizona or find someone in az with my setup to find the one "street legal" cobalt that would like to race I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.
It would certainly end some arguements thats for sure.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by clipse48
wait couple months after i get my mivec tuner and ill show you many!! on stock internals and again probally no more then 15 psi.. give me a walboro fuel pump bigger injectors and a good tune i say ~550 whp... and still on 15psi. if i turned the boost up to even 20 psi the motor would take off without the car lol.. and second please point me in the direction on where you can fine that turbo kit for a cobalt.. cause did a google search didnt find ish.. closes i got is 140+ whp on stock motor so if my math does me right your putting about 100 less whp which isnt to close.. and 500 whp street legal cobalt with stock internals.. again still couldnt find it so if you could point me in that direction please!. and like ive said before in this forum and on even 4g eclipse forums cobalt is a stout car for what it is.. good bang for your buck.. but big whp numbers on a stock block or no motor swap(which with the car being so small dont think any other gm motor would fit) is still yet to be proven.. if you think your gonna be the talk of the town for a 400 whp car with again MORE then 20 psi and supporting mods either your from a really really small town or everyone drives civics lol..

oh yeah and read the last sentence of your post!! need to edit



haha ya and ive raced a ferrari and i pulled by like 3 cars..
dude find a cobalt ss in albuquerque, new mexico and we can end this discussion.. ill even have my buddy in his even video it for all to see.. look for this eclipse and well set something up
This is how i know you DO NOT KNOW WHAT SMACK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BOY. Talk to sparrow from you forums ask him if he got his car running right

Not even SRTs are safe at that levels, i guess your block is betters than ours cuz it will hold that power
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by darrion
im talking about the Cobalt SS/SC has like what 204 or 207 horse power at the crank and the 06 Eclipes GT V6 has 256 horse power at the crank
Serioulsy...most cobalt ss/sc's dyno from 210-220whp..some even more. I'll do the math for you. 210whp X .15% drivetrain loss =31.5 + 210whp =241 crank horsepower. Now 220 X .15 =33 +220 = 253 crank horsepower. So alot of cobalt ss/sc's have between 240-250 crank horsepower. Not to far off from the eclipse bud.

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This is how i know you DO NOT KNOW WHAT SMACK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BOY. Talk to sparrow from you forums ask him if he got his car running right

Not even SRTs are safe at that levels, i guess your block is betters than ours cuz it will hold that power
Kind of what I was getting at. Not many blocks on any car can handle 500whp. Only a select few can...but what do we know. Maybe Mitz fooled us all and gave the 4g eclipse the strongest motor ever built, even better than their prized evo. Probably not.

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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yup, this car when set up right must be running we pullied cobras with only 15Psi. Can not get better than that
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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I didn't a 180 its just fact. Some people have a hard time accepting truth.

And no dude I don't have a supercharger I just said that to impress people that I don't know lol. And I said a turbo kit because I would much rather run turbo then supercharger. But that's what's available right now. So I run it. Look what happened to the ss when I turbo was introduced the car woke up.

And as far as racing a stg 2 that's what the topic was about. But will gladly race anything else out there. Even a stg 7 haha.

And I'm glad you found ripps website. And if you read a little. 449 whp but turned down the boost cause it doesn't have any fuel system upgrades and was running lean.
And evilgoat if I'm not mistaken didn't you say somewhere on the other forum you bought your car as is? If I'm wrong disregard this statment but don't be running how compression ratio works on a car with boost if you didn't have a hand even building your own car.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Ohh boy, do i have to build my car in order to tell you how these motors run? You obviously know so litttle and run your mouth like you know. Your statement about your car running double the power at only 15psi than a cobalt at 15PSI explains it all.

I will let someone else to school you a bit
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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umm actually there are a decent amount of cars that can make 500whp on STOCK Motors...
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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wrong
what do you mean wrong how is that wrong
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Cobras are ***** cars. I f-in hate them. Well any mustang at that. And as far as my block goes. Who knows what will happen after 500whp **** might blow up for all I know. No one has gotten that high before. And how dare you compare my block to a turbocharged pt cruiser motor lol. And the 6G75 is actually built with forged internals. And actually stock evo motors with the right set up can over 500awhp. Even little honda f22a's can pick up the new issue of modyfied pretty sick s2000
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by darrion
what do you mean wrong how is that wrong

Man I thought it was common knowledge on this site. Ever seen a stock ss/sc dyno buddy?

Originally Posted by clipse48
Cobras are ***** cars. I f-in hate them. Well any mustang at that. And as far as my block goes. Who knows what will happen after 500whp **** might blow up for all I know. No one has gotten that high before. And how dare you compare my block to a turbocharged pt cruiser motor lol. And the 6G75 is actually built with forged internals. And actually stock evo motors with the right set up can over 500awhp. Even little honda f22a's can pick up the new issue of modyfied pretty sick s2000
Oh come on man...just...wow...come on....

and come on dude, the 2.4 World engine is one of the best motors about. It has a bottom end like a workhorse...ever seen what the bottom end of an SRT-4 can do

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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umm actually there are a decent amount of cars that can make 500whp on STOCK Motors...
yeah i garantee you they are all 30k + cars at retail price of course. Cuz now you can get a termi really cheap...
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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Well, I'm stage 3 w/ mods in sig, and I beat a tuned 4G by 3 and a half cars.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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2jz-gte...1jz-gte...rb25det....rb26det....f20c...4g63t... just a couple of motors i could think of.. there are alot more.. but the f22 cant.. walls are to thin and they arnt to boost frienly.. Huy's S2000 is an AP1 so its packin the f20c
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