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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
I do have a bolt on/tuned LNF
I saw your sig so I thought you had an '06 with a turbo swap... and if you're on the stock Ko4, you can join me in full bolt-on guys losing to stock Ls3s.... its going to be a long line so reserve your spot
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:43 AM
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how about you go find one and do a roll race and video it, and post it
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:44 AM
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oh and I just watch the 2 TCs vs the "ZL550" Camaro from the last page... i'm REALLY supposed to believe a ko4 Cobalt and S252 Cobalt put 9 car lenghts on a 550hp Camaro? lol

i'll have a lot of what you are smoking, please

also a video of you spinning to 40mph with some rap music blaring does nothing for me


on the stock Continentals and 23psi in December last year, I was lighting them up at 50mph with only 16,000 miles on the tires....true story



spinning=/=pulling LS3 Vette

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
as I said, you can teach ANYONE to race from a roll in a matter of DAYS, not weeks, months, or YEARS like it can take to master drag racing from a dig(especially on the street away from prepped track)...

too bad it wasn't a 6-speed automatic vette, that way he would have walked the OP, been drinking a cup of coffee while doing so, and ended this discussion a long time ago

because a LS3 Vette is a faster car, point blank period...
who cares? you think we all don't know that? you think the OP posting a thead like this is going to make everyone believe they can spank LS3 vettes? come on seriously... anyone with a brain knows it's not likely...

again the section is called "war stories" post your racing wins.... not "whos car is faster"

a race won is a race won regardless..
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:59 AM
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Even after you showed him the video he'd call bs Don't waste your time unless you actually meet someone for a good run and start a new thread.
you mean this video:

YouTube - 09 cobalt ss/tc vs c6 corvette


which is a Ls2, not a LS3, racing a Cobalt... and the Cobalt STILL loses to a shitty driver... now what happens when the vette gets 40 MORE whp and a driver?

and is from a dig, where shitty drivers most definitely show their ugly face... which i've been arguing since I got here... I mean the fact the Cobalt jumped the Corvette by two cars(which is laughable) and then got ran down by a 340whp car badly.... that should tell you that Corvette is A LOT faster than that Cobalt... so give the Cobalt its tune and bolt-ons... suddenly that race is a GOOD race... guess what? that vette loses to a stock Ls3 by multiple car lengths... see where i'm going with this?

racing from a dig=skill

racing from a roll=gay


put it this way, you put me or pretty much ANY of the guys turning good times in turbo Cobalts in a L3 Vette, ****, i'd like to run Cmiller's car with him ON the slicks

street tire for street tire, it'd be so damn ugly this wouldn't even be a discussion any more

and hate to break it to you guys, it wouldn't be any better from a roll


honestly, you guys need to go race some LS2 Corvettes... seriously, forget the LS3s... you won't beat well driven Ls2s, they're all day 12.4-12.5 cars off the showroom floor... we're not... bolt-ons/tuned

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:07 AM
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I can beat a ls3 vette from a roll
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
you mean this video:

YouTube - 09 cobalt ss/tc vs c6 corvette


which is a Ls2, not a LS3, racing a Cobalt... and the Cobalt STILL loses to a shitty driver... now what happens when the vette gets 40 MORE whp and a driver?

and is from a dig, where shitty drivers most definitely show their ugly face... which i've been arguing since I got here... I mean the fact the Cobalt jumped the Corvette by two cars(which is laughable) and then got ran down by a 340whp car badly.... that should tell you that Corvette is A LOT faster than that Cobalt... so give the Cobalt its tune and bolt-ons... suddenly that race is a GOOD race... guess what? that vette loses to a stock Ls3 by multiple car lengths... see where i'm going with this?

racing from a dig=skill

racing from a roll=gay


put it this way, you put me or pretty much ANY of the guys turning good times in turbo Cobalts in a L3 Vette, ****, i'd like to run Cmiller's car with him ON the slicks

street tire for street tire, it'd be so damn ugly this wouldn't even be a discussion any more

and hate to break it to you guys, it wouldn't be any better from a roll


honestly, you guys need to go race some LS2 Corvettes... seriously, forget the LS3s... you won't beat well driven Ls2s, they're all day 12.4-12.5 cars off the showroom floor... we're not... bolt-ons/tuned
you're beating a dead horse... just because they are capable of such numbers doesn't mean they'll do them everytime... a stock TC racing an LS2 vette doesn't prove anything... a bolted and tuned TC with a good driver would have smoked that vette...
as i've said before and i'll say it one last time.. a good driver in a badass cobalt will beat a bad driver in an LS3 vette having a bad day... this is probably the case with the OP's race... and he won. i'll say it one last time... HE WON. who cares why? **** happens... any car can lose a race when **** happens... it doesn't change the fact that a win is a win regardless..
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:15 AM
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and the fact remains a well driven STOCK Ls2 vette, not even a LS3, will beat 90% of the LNFs on this board... mine included

from a roll? from 40-100ish, yeah, we'd give a LS2 a race... from 100-130ish... that brake pedal, find it


we won't beat a Ls3 from 40-55, lol

the problem I have with the racing scene here, is yeah, right now(tonight even) I could have got a race set up with a couple LS1, a couple LS2, and a Ls3 vettes.. and I can't beat any of them, lol

the two Ls1s are that baddest of the flock, tbqh

the problem is, the guys who actually RACE corvettes, don't race STOCK corvettes... its much like benchmarking your LS1 f-body or whatever up against a stock terminator Cobra........... good luck finding a stock terminator Cobra


with the LS engines, because you can gain almost 50whp with bolt-ons and tune........most people that race them have that... throw in the fact they are simple pushrod engines that are a $350 cam, $300 worth of valve springs and pushrods, and a $350 tune from ANOTHER 60whp.... you can run into cars that will hurt your feelings more often than not when you meet people who on the regular race SBCs

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:39 AM
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some thing you will learn haha. ZL550 actually put down 439 to the wheels. Next, its an auto car. ZL550's trap around 114-116. I have trapped more than that off the bottle. that roll was 20-60.. On Nitto 555r's haha. My guess, is you're an unknowledged person who swings nuts on displacement is key over everything. Come spring, I will happily get you numbers on a dyno. My car is a fully bolted car, running right around 22* of timing and a 75 shot.

Im sorry your a **** driver and slow as ****.

Kind of funny how it is you versus the whole thread. I'm not a 16 year old kid. You will sprout a dick and buy a vette one of these day only to lose to a vehicle similar to mine or others. I can post a h/c LS2 GTO getting beat too if you'd like.

Please go to User CP, click change password, type in existing password, then close eyes and mash hands on keyboard with rage and hit save. Log off, and never come back.

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Edit: You still don't know what's done to my car and making assumptions.. continue to stay slow.

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
and the fact remains a well driven STOCK Ls2 vette, not even a LS3, will beat 90% of the LNFs on this board... mine included

from a roll? from 40-100ish, yeah, we'd give a LS2 a race... from 100-130ish... that brake pedal, find it


we won't beat a Ls3 from 40-55, lol

the problem I have with the racing scene here, is yeah, right now(tonight even) I could have got a race set up with a couple LS1, a couple LS2, and a Ls3 vettes.. and I can't beat any of them, lol

the two Ls1s are that baddest of the flock, tbqh

the problem is, the guys who actually RACE corvettes, don't race STOCK corvettes... its much like benchmarking your LS1 f-body or whatever up against a stock terminator Cobra........... good luck finding a stock terminator Cobra


with the LS engines, because you can gain almost 50whp with bolt-ons and tune........most people that race them have that... throw in the fact they are simple pushrod engines that are a $350 cam, $300 worth of valve springs and pushrods, and a $350 tune from ANOTHER 60whp.... you can run into cars that will hurt your feelings more often than not when you meet people who on the regular race SBCs
Please don't compare modded cars and what kind of cars you can run into.. This is the simple talk of you saying there is no way a simple LNF setup, if done right, can beat a STOCK LS3.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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why is this argument going on still, dont you guys understand the race gods are with anybody who owns a cobalt so it will beat anything hehehehehehe
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
for those keeping tabs, I have a almost full bolt on LNF with a 23psi tune.... my time slip? only an 1/8th mile slip:


obviously I can launch with a 2.0 sec, 60' on street tires, its a pretty good time... should be good for 12.7-12.8s..........guess what still A LOT slower than a Ls3 Corvette
Hmm, before I turned the boost up some I ran a 8.3 in the 1/8 ...though I trapped 95mph, so despite a shitty 1/8th run it would still drop time in the back half.... I'm making more power now but just to say then I ran a stock LS3 on a ROLL (like this thread is about, not dragracing) the Vette would beat me just because my 1/8 number, like that actually means what my car can do (second time at the strip)? No, he wouldn't..
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
and how about the LNFs that haven't broke 300 on a lot of dynos? going to post those up as well?

or are all of those 330whp

that is why I said average, the LS3 AVERAGES 380whp... the LNF AVERAGES 310whp(and that is being generous)

its down 70whp, is still not rear wheel drive, still doesn't have those sexy ass rear tires behind it, still is going to lose

I personally know a guy that put down 370whp stock in a Ls3 camaro on a loaded Mustang dyno(heartbreaker), 381 intake only, 405 with headers and an intake, and 421 with a tune

on a dynojet, he'd be around 440whp
i will be putting down about the same numbers as a stock ls3

Fully bolted and tuned on E-47 : 351 whp 393 wrtq with a badly slipping clutch. Proof Right Here: Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket

i have a spec 3+ clutch now as well as a built motor and in a couple weeks i should have a ported head as well
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Just like the title, beat my first corvette today a c6 manual believe owner said it was a 2009. but did a 45 roll and beat him about 2 and a half cars! just expressing why i love the lnf soo much! haha
Kewl!
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
some thing you will learn haha. ZL550 actually put down 439 to the wheels. Next, its an auto car. ZL550's trap around 114-116. I have trapped more than that off the bottle. that roll was 20-60.. On Nitto 555r's haha. My guess, is you're an unknowledged person who swings nuts on displacement is key over everything. Come spring, I will happily get you numbers on a dyno. My car is a fully bolted car, running right around 22* of timing and a 75 shot.

Im sorry your a **** driver and slow as ****.

Kind of funny how it is you versus the whole thread. I'm not a 16 year old kid. You will sprout a dick and buy a vette one of these day only to lose to a vehicle similar to mine or others. I can post a h/c LS2 GTO getting beat too if you'd like.

Please go to User CP, click change password, type in existing password, then close eyes and mash hands on keyboard with rage and hit save. Log off, and never come back.

Thanks

Edit: You still don't know what's done to my car and making assumptions.. continue to stay slow.


so really a Camaro with 80 MORE whp than a base LS3 managed to trap 3-4mph faster? am I missing something here?

i'm not necessarily a displacement car, but I am a common sense guy... a Cobalt on street tires is not going to out launch many rwd V8s on the street... our hope is to run them down once we hook... when you're racing a car with MORE whp and a better hp/weight ratio, you don't run them down...


guess what that Camaro STILL has more whp, STILL has a better lb/hp ratio, STILL has RWD, and has an automatic... considering it has a better hp/lb ratio than a LS3 Vette, that could possibly be WORSE than the LS3 Vette, lol

and this is why this forum is laughable, you've ran into ONE terribly driven ZL560 Camaro, and now they're all slow...

bolt-on LNF>>>>>>TVS s/c'd L99!!1

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Lol power to weight and again you are comparing dig racing to roll racing
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
True.. haha

Found a'99 GT with termi swap, t56 and etc. with the SRA still, has the full termi exterior swap with brakes too. 9k. I almost want to pick it up. Hmm school money > another car
The 99 GT's are the crappy ones though They have the interior of the 98's and the body of the 99-04's.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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I'm going to stop replying in here if they just go ignored....

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
I'm going to stop replying in here if they just go ignored....

I don't ignore your posts, just bama's Really amazed someone can't understand that one car can lose to another.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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It's also a cobra interior you really cant tell it's a GT other than the VIN
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
Lol power to weight and again you are comparing dig racing to roll racing
so what is important in roll racing?

what advantage does a Bolt-on/tuned LNF Cobalt have over a Ls3 Vette OR a ZL560 Camaro from a roll? i'm going to love to hear this
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
so what is important in roll racing?

what advantage does a Bolt-on/tuned LNF Cobalt have over a Ls3 Vette OR a ZL560 Camaro from a roll? i'm going to love to hear this
First of all, ZL550.. this isn't a 560, 2ndly, I'd be more than happy to have the 18 year old kid that owns this come on here and explain what happened. There are vids on local sites of him losing to GTO's, G8, etc.

Also, when a Cobalt is making over 400hp (as mine is), and weighs 1000# less, I think that's a pretty good advantage. Lastly, keeping the car in drive with the sluggish A6 causes the car to not drop the gear right away to go, also, this shifts are very laggy.

What advantage do you think you have in explaining and backing up cars you will never own?
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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It's also a cobra interior you really cant tell it's a GT other than the VIN
Ahh, nice. T-56 trans too? What's the price on it?
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Ahh, nice. T-56 trans too? What's the price on it?
9K.. Here's the bad.. 129K miles on body, 71k on engine
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