um, where did I(as in me making a post, saying cobalt SS's are rice) say your car was rice?

i didnt

in fact, in any of my posts, did I specifically call any car rice?

no

you need to calm down a bit, i was just pointing out exactly what you explained.

what car do you think i drive? how much faster does a car have to be to "blow the doors off" of another car?

a properly modded z28 or nova SS should be faster than my car. so what year is your dad's car? and your uncle's car? and what do they have?

again, all i pointed out was that the general view i see on this forum is that if its an import sport compact, its rice

 

Yah i think that says that you called it rice.

 

Yes ive raced my friends Z28 and beat him due to his shift from 2nd to 1st and bouncing the rev limiter..it was quite funny and also ive raced a 95 T/A and rode his ass all the way down the road and kept up which they could not believe but yes they like my car and ive talked to other drivers that drive SS's and T/A that said they were looking into getting one..i do understand your point about how old guys in vettes and old muscle cars that dont even look at a Cobalt SS because of the fact that its only a 4 cylinder..o yah you also forgot the most important word in your words in defining rice....JAPANESE

 

Here we call that "Wheat"

 

wheaties.....its whats for breakfast.

 

Answer the following questions:

1. If a Ford Mustang has tons of "performance stickers," a big old wing, huge rims, mismatched body kits, tinted windows, loud stereo system, tons of gauge, and is painted in primer would you consider that car to be "rice"?
   
2. If you brought your car to a car show, and you had to park it in a section of cars that were most similar to yours, which of the following would you choose?
   1. The Muscle Car section, full of cars like GTO's, Mustangs, F-Bodies, Vetts, Vipers and Grand Nationals.
   2. A section full of sporty sub compacts, such as the RSX, Integra, WRX, and EVO?

 

notice the quotation marks around the word?

 

1= Yes
2= B



Now what did I win?

 

ur an idiot, ss will never be as fast or faster than a STI

 

Well that wasn't for you, but for your efforts you win a steaming hot pile of crap.

 

thats the best kind of crap, imho. much better then the cold soupy stuff...

 

Yes this the best part!!! I never said A SS was ever faster than an STI you fagget. The bottomline is that an STI broke and it was funny.

 

im pretty damn sure that if you put a 100 wet shot on a cobalt SS/SC that it would be signifigantly faster than an STI

 

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz!!!!!!

 

I don't think it would happen, at least not in a 1/4 mile race(at a track). Were talking about one car that does a 13.2 in the 1/4 mile and the other one does it in 14.7. The Cobalt would need more then a 100 shot. Can a Cobalt be built faster then a STi, yes! It just takes money!

 

Hell if you wanna get technical a Cobalt is faster than a STI. 8.9 is the fastest STI in the states and in pro stock for cobalts they run 6.6's all day =) EDIT- haha it is 6.6 secs!

 

If we really want to stay on topic and be technical, the STi didn't broke!! You even said that you don't know what happened to it!

 

i have been to LACR many times, and i have yet to see a 100% stock STI pull off anything better than 13.8

granted, its a slow track, and no car runs as it should there

but i have seen some STI's run pretty crappy times, namely, a 2004 STI with intake and cobb accessport stage 1 tuning. he was getting 2.0 60ft times and pulled off a best of 14.8 or something like that.

that same night my car went 13.8 with the same 60ft time and a hole in one of the intercooler pipes. yes, the 60ft times are not good for an AWD car, but his car and my car pulled off the same launch, yet my car was a full second faster. i rode along with him once, he didnt have any problem shifting through the gears.

best STI time's i have seen there was a 13.6 with intake and full exhaust and a 13.4 with UTEC and full exhaust but it was unbolted at the down pipe

as for a cobalt needing more than a 100shot, have you ever been in a car with a 100shot? or any shot of nitrous?

nitrous offers a huge boost in power while hardly adding any weight. so a stock cobalt puts out say 205hp at the wheels, run it with a 100shot and it will be over 280hp at the wheels while a stock STI puts ~245hp at the wheels. simple power to weight ratio there.

 

haha You got me!

 

At night, when the weather was nice and cold, I've seen several stock STi's run very low 13's. The drivers were also top notch, and knew how to launch an all wheel drive car. The thing is, learning how to launch a car like the STI usually take a lot of practice, which in turn puts a lot of wear and tear on the drivetrain. In the end most STi drivers end up giving up before they get good enough to put down great times.

All in all the STI and the EVO shouldn't be drag racing. Although they are very fast when launched correctly, in time the extra strain on the drive train will end up taking its toll. The cars are really made for tracks, auto x, and rally (if your dumb enought to rally your 30,000 dollar car God bless you).

I can tell you why that 2004 is running terrible times, the intake. Although spots on Cobb's website say they have fuel maps for intakes, they don't ( http://cobbtuning.com/sti/accessport/index.html )! The result is a car that actually loses power, compared to stock. If you see any guy in an STI running an intake without serious, serious modifications, he's going to be slower than stock. The stock airbox on the STI is very good, and is actually a cold air system. Unfortunately the resonators in the system hide the turbo sounds, so a ton of people run intakes (myself included), and end up losing power. Next time you see that guy, tell him to take the intake off, and reinstall the map, I bet he will do much better.

 

Its called compromise. If the wing is the only thing you see that needs improvement on the car, then its a good thing. Wings can be swapped out quite easily. Cosmetics can easily be taken care of. Some people bought the car for the ride, and performance scalability.

The subbie' broke, thats gotta suck. The fact this kid is a) Driving a subbie'STI b) Doesnt know how to drive 5-speed and c) Is roaring around town looking to lay rubber is the real cause for concern here, I think ...

 

The STI is a 6 speed!

 

jeeze, been a rough day for me... 5 speed has always been the figure of speach for mtx, Im 32, not used to 6 speed being so common... lol

 

dude that awesome cars not to be afraid o to race and win 350z GT, vett04and down,wrx,srt4,sentraSEr,3000gtVr4,s2000 honda,you can beat them all with the ss stock the 350zGt will give you a run for your money thou than and an evo your cobalt sorry to say is not 205hps that was a lie from the dealers,least mine is not 205hp, my car stock dyno at 223hp ant wheel and 230 with intake mod, torqu is bout 230lbs if not more and with a pulley from 3.5 to 3.0in and a custom header,or where ever you can find on else wise and exhaust you could push bout 280hp and thats at the wheels all for bout 1500buck or less proablly less

 

Are you for real? Just when I start to respect people on this forum someone posts this kinda crap. First of all, please learn how to write, you sound like a 4 year old, and that does nothing but make everyone here look a little dumber.

Lets see the dyno, and it better not be in 4th gear! Chevy didn't lie, they just couldn't nail down a consistent numbers, so they played it safe. Translation? There are some factory freaks out there, but even they will evenutally drop in HP as they get a little older. A majority of these cars dyno below 200 to the wheels, and the torque is much lower.

Adding a ton of mods will make any car faster, but to get it tuned to take advantage of the new parts is going to cost you far more than 1,500 bucks. But do us all a favor, mod the hell out of your car, and drive it hard, and post some pics when you grenade your engine.