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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Talking Cobalt LS vs. 240SX

I was on my way home and got to a red light when the light turned green i hear this car start to floor it so i go and i am pulling and pulling and i can hear his turbo spool and then the BOV, very little turbo, and we got to about 70 or 80 and i had to shut down because of a car in front of me. This guy just keeps on going which is when i seen it said a 240SX and i was like no way did that just happen. It was an adrenaline rush but it felt good. This guy couldnt have been pushing too many psi and it spooled so fast. Well thought id tell you a nice war story
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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??? I don't like to call BS cause I don't like when its done to me. But I gotta ask what mods do you have that allowed your 2.2 to hang with a turboed 240 SX?

Not flaming just trying to figure out what happened.

But nice kill none the less.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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was he racing? dont SS/SC's have trouble with some of them?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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yes he was racing... i have an injen cai and a custom fabbed cat back... this 240sx wasnt in the best of shape which i did not mention and trust me when i had to shut down i looked at my gf and was like wtf just happened was did i really stay in front of him... it was awesome, of all cars that was the last one id think id ever beat, but the condition wasnt the best of shape
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Thats cool I wasn't flaming you I was just asking! Probly ragged ut from being beaten on a bunch of years with that turbo. Man you must have pissed him off beating him like that! So what if you had to shut down you still had him to 70 or 80!
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Thats cool I wasn't flaming you I was just asking! Probly ragged out from being beaten on a bunch of years with that turbo. Man you must have pissed him off beating him like that! So what if you had to shut down you still had him to 70 or 80!
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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could have been some cheap ka24 turbo

just because something is turbo doesn't necessarily mean its fast or boosted up the ass.

there was a turbo 240 that I saw at the track with a huge FMIC and he was only pulling low 15's.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by arng22
was he racing? dont SS/SC's have trouble with some of them?
unless its a nicely built turbo on the 240's the ss s/cs dont have to much trouble.

or i mean they shouldnt have troubles.

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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people under estimate the 2.2. alot of people talk **** about them but yet their faster than most of the cars in its class. plus if u get the turbo kit for it u will bee keeping up with the ss/sc.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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i beat my friend in my 2.2 he has an SR20DET swap with a greddy turbo..............okay it was from a dig and he was only boosting 5lbs, without any exhaust.
no exhaust=no boost. lol.

Originally Posted by nitrous818
people under estimate the 2.2. alot of people talk **** about them but yet their faster than most of the cars in its class. plus if u get the turbo kit for it u will bee keeping up with the ss/sc.
im pretty sure you would be beating the ss/sc, yeah it depends on the turbo, but an easy 50hp gain.

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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this one guy is going to put a turbo on his 2.4. he says he will be pushing 260 to 270 hp
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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this one guy is going to put a turbo on his 2.4. he says he will be pushing 260 to 270 hp
Um...That seems a LITTLE high...The highest gain from turbo I found for the 2.2 L was about 50...148-198/200)...So I am ASSUMING that it would be similar for the 2.4 L...Maybe like 178-238? If he adds exhaust and what not, then YES, probably around 260...So ****, I guess I he WOULD ace the stock SC...! LOL! Yeah, I want to turbo my little LS...That way I could run with the SC's! LOL! I just wish it wasn't auto...I hav to agree though, WAY too many people under estimate the 2.2's...I did a FEW comparisons online, and found at least by NUMBERS, the 2.2 L is one of the top in it's class. Same for the SS/NA, AND the SS/SC...Actually, I believe the SS/SC IS top in it's class...By like 5 hp! LOL! And a little bit of torque!?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by laserelectric
Um...That seems a LITTLE high...The highest gain from turbo I found for the 2.2 L was about 50...148-198/200)...So I am ASSUMING that it would be similar for the 2.4 L...Maybe like 178-238? If he adds exhaust and what not, then YES, probably around 260...So ****, I guess I he WOULD ace the stock SC...! LOL! Yeah, I want to turbo my little LS...That way I could run with the SC's! LOL! I just wish it wasn't auto...I hav to agree though, WAY too many people under estimate the 2.2's...I did a FEW comparisons online, and found at least by NUMBERS, the 2.2 L is one of the top in it's class. Same for the SS/NA, AND the SS/SC...Actually, I believe the SS/SC IS top in it's class...By like 5 hp! LOL! And a little bit of torque!?
depends if hes using the premade.
if its the premade then i believe your right.
but if he pieces his own together 260 isnt that hard.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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u know u can turbo your auto
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Im amazed you took a turbod 240sx, but i guess it is possible. the sr20det one....well wtf do you mean no exhaust? you mean no up pipe or anything meaning no turbo...? that motor would probably barely run like that....why would a dig help you?! turbo torque and rwd are both on his side for a dig race. if the sr20det is running 5 psi that means he has exhaust... turbo is part of the exhaust system, it doesn't just hang there and start spinning for no reason. And if he had a greddy turbo, that means it was not the stock sr20det turbo (yes it comes stock turbo hence the t at the end of the engine code) and i can't understand why he would only run 5 psi. those talking about the power a turbo ecotec puts down, sure 270hp is doable on probably the 2.4 and 2.2, but not 270 WHEEL horsepower. there is a difference. a 50hp gain from a turbo kit is HORRIBLE. Maybe a 50whp gain over the stock flywheel rating? which is closer to a 80whp gain... and for the guy with the auto...get a tranny cooler, go turbo, get a good tune with firm shifts, etc and you will run right next to a stick.

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depends if hes using the premade.
if its the premade then i believe your right.
but if he pieces his own together 260 isnt that hard.
....what? you could up the boost of the "pre-made." If the company that puts the kit together is competent, they will choose a turbo that matches the flow characteristics of the engine and a custom pieced together kit will not overpower it by much if any if setup the same way. 260whp is not safe on a stock 2.2 block imo on a daily driver. possibly in a 2.4, but still, i wouldn't risk it. the lsj's start having problems with pistons once you go north of there, so im doubting the 2.2 or 2.4 will hold together.

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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I Cant Wait How The Turbos Work On These Cars. I Want To See The Results Maybe I Will Turbo Mine If The Outcome Is Good.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 07cobaltowner
no exhaust=no boost. lol.



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explain how not having an exhaust bolted up would mean the turbo not making boost??? Turbos often make more power with less restictive exhaust, and having no exhaust would mean less restriction......
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
Im amazed you took a turbod 240sx, but i guess it is possible. the sr20det one....well wtf do you mean no exhaust? you mean no up pipe or anything meaning no turbo...? that motor would probably barely run like that....why would a dig help you?! turbo torque and rwd are both on his side for a dig race. if the sr20det is running 5 psi that means he has exhaust... turbo is part of the exhaust system, it doesn't just hang there and start spinning for no reason. And if he had a greddy turbo, that means it was not the stock sr20det turbo (yes it comes stock turbo hence the t at the end of the engine code) and i can't understand why he would only run 5 psi. those talking about the power a turbo ecotec puts down, sure 270hp is doable on probably the 2.4 and 2.2, but not 270 WHEEL horsepower. there is a difference. a 50hp gain from a turbo kit is HORRIBLE. Maybe a 50whp gain over the stock flywheel rating? which is closer to a 80whp gain... and for the guy with the auto...get a tranny cooler, go turbo, get a good tune with firm shifts, etc and you will run right next to a stick.



....what? you could up the boost of the "pre-made." If the company that puts the kit together is competent, they will choose a turbo that matches the flow characteristics of the engine and a custom pieced together kit will not overpower it by much if any if setup the same way. 260whp is not safe on a stock 2.2 block imo on a daily driver. possibly in a 2.4, but still, i wouldn't risk it. the lsj's start having problems with pistons once you go north of there, so im doubting the 2.2 or 2.4 will hold together.
i thought the 2.4's internals were built for higher hp than the LSJ's
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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yeah um...?

Originally Posted by Sunburst_SS
explain how not having an exhaust bolted up would mean the turbo not making boost??? Turbos often make more power with less restictive exhaust, and having no exhaust would mean less restriction......
sry but i dont think you know what you are talking about, you need to have some back pressure to run boost otherwise where is the boost.
put it like this tires hold pressure in you put air in them and they trap it the more air the more pressure so now put a hole in the tires, well they no longer hold pressure.
you need to have an exhaust (yes bigger exhaust is better) but still an exhaust is needed, that way you can build more pressure and more boost.
and to answer the other question he was running open down pipe so there was no emision restrictive parts attached, and from a dig because since he had no back pressure his car didn't spool til like 5 grand and hardly at all, a turboed car relies on its turbo to make power without the turbo making power the car is a dog.
under normal conditions a cobalt wouldn't stand a chance against a 240sx.
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