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Old 09-17-2005, 09:59 AM
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Cobalt SS/SC vs Mazda RX-8

from a stop- SS wonby a car length or maybe even more
from a 20 mph roll- SS won by about 1/2 car length.
30 mph roll- SS Won by about 1/2 car to 1 car length.

I was driving the SS, and my father was driving the RX-8...he doesnt own it. it was his Demo vehicle (works at a car dealership) which may have contributed to him losing... maybe he wasnt used to the clutch or shifting at such high RPM's (rotary engine kicks some sick high RPMs)
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we decided to go have a little fun on a dead stip of highway. i won every race up to about 100 mph then i shut down. the car lengths that i won by im not too sure about... its what my father approximated, so it may have been more or less either way... i was impressed, needless to say, so was he
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nice comparison, i was wandering who would win between us and an rx8 from a launch
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Rotary engines are cool, I had a 1980 rx7. it kicked ass. I thought it was pretty fast until my buddy decided to race me. he let me stay close until about 65, then floored his CORVETTE, yeah I lost hard. 4 speed old ass rx 7 against a new(at the time ) vette. it was fun anyways
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The 8 is not really made for speed so I wouldn't be surprised if you beat him, I am actually shocked by how close it was. From a dig, and with a good launch, I think the 8 would probably be just as fast, but from a roll the 8 has some trouble.

I used to own an 8, and I can tell you that if the scenario that you described was accurate, a whole bunch of the stories I've heard on this site are BS. The RX-8 is only putting down somewhere between 180-190 (varies greatly). The car only has about 150 foot pounds of torque, and weights 3,000 pounds. So either something is wrong with this story, or something is wrong with a bunch of stories I’ve seen posted here.
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Originally Posted by pkskull77
I used to own an 8, and I can tell you that if the scenario that you described was accurate, a whole bunch of the stories I've heard on this site are BS. So either something is wrong with this story, or something is wrong with a bunch of stories I’ve seen posted here.
im not too sure about what ur talking about here...like i said though, i didnt look back and see how many car lengths i was ahead of him, i went by how far my father said he was back...knowing how people dont like to lose and all, id probly say that he may have been further back... i dont know.
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Originally Posted by DanJHartman
im not too sure about what ur talking about here...like i said though, i didnt look back and see how many car lengths i was ahead of him, i went by how far my father said he was back...knowing how people dont like to lose and all, id probly say that he may have been further back... i dont know.
I'm talking about the stories on here with people hanging with STI's and EVO's, or other clowns claiming 230 at the wheels (dyno'd in 4th). The 8 is better from the dig, because you can launch it from about 7 grand, but unless you keep it really wound up its not good from a roll.

However, like I said they are not meant for drag racing, they were designed to handle, and they do it very well. Try running your dad on a twisty road, he would make a mess of you. The 8 is just so responsive, and becuase you can always feel when the car is at its limits, really inspires confidence.

Also I don't see what motive your dad would have for lying, its not like he owns the car.
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Originally Posted by pkskull77
I'm talking about the stories on here with people hanging with STI's and EVO's, or other clowns claiming 230 at the wheels (dyno'd in 4th). The 8 is better from the dig, because you can launch it from about 7 grand, but unless you keep it really wound up its not good from a roll.

However, like I said they are not meant for drag racing, they were designed to handle, and they do it very well. Try running your dad on a twisty road, he would make a mess of you. The 8 is just so responsive, and becuase you can always feel when the car is at its limits, really inspires confidence.

Also I don't see what motive your dad would have for lying, its not like he owns the car.
o alright now i see what ur talking about... im not big on racing really, so i cant say i got the full power of the SS out... that was the first time ive really raced
yeah the RX8 seems like its glued to the road... i was following him back to my my house, and he took a 90 degree turn at like 50 mph...i didnt even hear the tires screech...very impressive...
about the lying thing... i was just assuming... its not about backing the car, its about "ego" ...thats maybe why i thought he might have over/under estimated the distance... its not a big deal he may have been right i dont know... it was fun thats all that really mattered
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which model Rx8 was it there are 2 different engine choices I would assume the 6spd becasue it was close ???
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I'll be racing a RX-8 sometime after I get my Cobalt in. One of the doctors I work with said he wanted to race once I get it.
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Originally Posted by NGalaxyTimmyo
I'll be racing a RX-8 sometime after I get my Cobalt in. One of the doctors I work with said he wanted to race once I get it.
post some pics of your laser blue while your at it, please.
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The moment I get it, no problem
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Originally Posted by c7015
which model Rx8 was it there are 2 different engine choices I would assume the 6spd becasue it was close ???

He mentioned shifting in the original thread, so its the high output motor.
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Originally Posted by pkskull77
He mentioned shifting in the original thread, so its the high output motor.

ahh good call ....seems resonable especially if the results were under represented by your dad
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yeah it was the 6 speed, i checked out the redline on it and it was around 8500, i believe
that rotary engine winds out man
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Nice kill, I have been with my freinds that have rx-8's, the redline is nasty. It goes for so longggg.
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I have driven an 8, the car was slow till about 6K, with no torque down low at all. Nice kill, about what is expected.
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LOL the redline and the no torque until 6k sounds alot like an S2000. Hmm speaking of that I need to see if my boss wants to race me (he has a S2000).

You should have seen the race with my Trans Am and his car, not pretty.
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Originally Posted by pkskull77
The 8 is not really made for speed so I wouldn't be surprised if you beat him, I am actually shocked by how close it was. From a dig, and with a good launch, I think the 8 would probably be just as fast, but from a roll the 8 has some trouble.

I used to own an 8, and I can tell you that if the scenario that you described was accurate, a whole bunch of the stories I've heard on this site are BS. The RX-8 is only putting down somewhere between 180-190 (varies greatly). The car only has about 150 foot pounds of torque, and weights 3,000 pounds. So either something is wrong with this story, or something is wrong with a bunch of stories I’ve seen posted here.
Seems similar to ss sc 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times according to this review.


http://www.modernracer.com/mazdarx8.html

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RX-8s aren't all that fast on the straights.

Try to take the same car in a corner and you'll fail miserably.
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