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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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Cobalt ss/tc vs Scion Tc

Raced my buddies turbo'd scion tc. Was pretty impressed on how close the race was. He has a huge weight difference - interior is gutted, no hood on during the race and his hatch is carbon fiber.


First race was from about 40 both started in 3rd (different gear ratio's so he got the jump on me)

2nd race was from 40- 120 (cobalt started in 2nd scion in 3rd)


2009 cobalt ss tc mods- catless dp, k&n sri, synapse charge pipes, treadstone tr8 intercooler, magnaflow exhaust, hp tuned 24psi, Dyno'd at 315 whp and 345 wtq.

Scion Tc - Dezod s1 turbo kit, catless dp, custom exhaust, intake, gutted interior, tuned on 10psi carbon fiber hatch and no hood during the race, Dyno'd at 302 whp and 293 wtq.


First race I gain on him a lot towards the end of the run, second run I stayed a head the whole time besides when I let off at the end


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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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Damn pretty even. You on 91 octane?
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Damn pretty even. You on 91 octane?
93 Octane
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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Nice runs. Surprised the scion was that quick.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tuned08ss
Nice runs. Surprised the scion was that quick.

same here honestly. But there is a big weight difference. His interior is gutted. I still have my seats, also sub enclosure in the trunk.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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I suppose he did save some weight. But still good for the Tc it has a lot less torque. Do they come with a LSD aswell? DI?

No hood during the race? Lol never seen that before. Woulda figure'd it create more drag on the highway than gains. What'ss a hood weigh 60lbs?
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Shanedude
I suppose he did save some weight. But still good for the Tc it has a lot less torque. Do they come with a LSD aswell? DI?

No hood during the race? Lol never seen that before. Woulda figure'd it create more drag on the highway than gains. What'ss a hood weigh 60lbs?
unsure, its a carbon fiber hood also so i doubt 60lbs lol . And his does not have lsd. He could've had it added but he did not. He has a stage 3 clutch on it and a light weight flywheel.


the carbon fiber hatch is what saves a lot of weight also!

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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Tc is not di
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 02:18 PM
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Definitely still impressive. Although gutting the interior is a little desperate if its a street car.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by brianhud1991
Definitely still impressive. Although gutting the interior is a little desperate if its a street car.
yeah he doesn't drive it much. has aftermarket seats in it still has one passenger seat lol. He mainly just drives it to car shows and stuff- not his daily


as far as gutted hes removed the seats and put aftermarket ones in and removed the back seats and sub enclosure.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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hmmm interesting .... my friend in high school had like an 89 civic hatch that he used to always drive around with no hood on ... thought he was a bad ass.

its was pretty gay
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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Good runs
What turbo comes in that s1 kit
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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Good runs
What turbo comes in that s1 kit

its a Garrett T3/T04E 57 trim turbocharger
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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Paul (owner of Dezod) definitely know his stuff about those cars, I've talked to him and the engine is pretty well over engineered although they still can't make as much without being built than the SS' can. Still way better than my shitty 2.2 though.
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Old Jun 21, 2014 | 10:50 PM
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You're friend use a breather in his pcv? Can really see it smoking after the third run
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Old Jun 22, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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seemed like you guys were toying back and forth.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GTOworshiper9
You're friend use a breather in his pcv? Can really see it smoking after the third run
I am unsure.

Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
seemed like you guys were toying back and forth.
Yeah we were, they were really good runs.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Good runs! Both of the cars weigh about the same stock. He gets out maybe 100lbs from the interior, maybe 20-30 lbs from hood, then you add the turbo kit which adds back some. So the weight difference isn't that huge, maybe 100lbs. If the weight difference was that significant, he would have walked you with the power levels being that close IMHO.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VR09Sedan
Good runs! Both of the cars weigh about the same stock. He gets out maybe 100lbs from the interior, maybe 20-30 lbs from hood, then you add the turbo kit which adds back some. So the weight difference isn't that huge, maybe 100lbs. If the weight difference was that significant, he would have walked you with the power levels being that close IMHO.

I agree. He does also have a lot less tq. Also has a carbon fiber hatch which weighs significantly less than the oem hatch.

stock for stock the cars weigh about the same. but on mine i do have aftermarket wheels (msr) which weigh about 8lbs more per wheel, sub enclosure, aftermarket seats (weigh about 10lbs each more) and I had a full tank of gas lol

But in the end they were really close races and pretty much just depended on who got the jump. IMO i was impressed with it and how close it was.
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 02:37 PM
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The tC's are no joke once they add our turbo system onto them. Stock motors can run around from 300-350whp well tuned. After that, it's built block and major fuel system overhaul time.

The S1 makes great power and is an awesome kit. Should you have any more questions, ask away! Here are a few more vids of our turbo on a Scion backed TA program we sponsor. Enjoy!




It's also the ONLY turbo kit to have survived the 25 Hours of Thunderhill endurance race.
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