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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Sorry but the Corvette is a better car than the NSX.

And something is only worth as much as you can sell it for so, since no one want's to waste $20,000 on a used 15 second RSX Type-S does it really matter?

And please don't compare one cars worst 1/4 time to anothers best.
Cobalt SS/SC = 14.1-14.7
RSX Type-S = 15.0-15.7
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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As for a larger aftermarket, is that the best you can come up with, this is the Cobalts first year, probably realy first 4 months of life. of corse they have a larger aftermarket how many years old is the car.

and you talk about resale value,
that means you talking about VALUE

so go to the Acura sit and build a Type S with similar options as the SS, Add Fogs, Front, Rear, and Sides Skirts. Upgrade the Rims and your looking at over 38K plus tax plus ship charges, bla, bla, bla
I know because it was my second choice, and the car came out to 42K on the road and the dealer was giving me a discount.

so after spending all that money for a lesser car, It better Damn be worth more a few years down the road.

by the way my SS was 30K on the road. I just saved 12K for buying a better car with the same options, put half of that for upgrades Interior and Exterior, your looking at a car that will blow the Type S off any track or street, and showroom.

race them and you'll take away all those pennies that those Type S'ers have

how is that for value.
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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I can't believe this kid just said the NSX is a better car than the Corvette. Is this kid nuts?
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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he just doesn't know any better, he should do some research before he opens his mouth, or types LOL
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Drenz
heres my proof = ACURA

Sure the S/C is .5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile... woopty do - the aftermarket support for the type-S and cobalt isnt even comparable... nor will it be in 2 years from now.

Do i even need to mention resale value, build quality or handling.

Next thing you know you guys are gonna tell me the Corvette is a better car then the NSX.


Dont get me wrong i love the ss s/c but c'mon now... most of you are all giddy cause you just bought one and want it to be "the best"
lol, you suck at proving things.
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Drenz

Next thing you know you guys are gonna tell me the Corvette is a better car then the NSX.

newsflash Larry !!!

2003 nsx = $89,000 for 0-60 in 5.0 seconds in second gear, and a 1/4 time of 13.4 @ 105mph holy **** dude... for 1/3 of the price you can get a cobalt which is only around 1 second slower....

compared to

corvette z06 = $65,000 for 0-60 in 3.7 seconds without even changing gears lmao.... .i'm not even gonna list anything else for this car haha

where did you even fathom the idea of an nsx being better?
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Drenz
heres my proof = ACURA

Sure the S/C is .5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile... woopty do - the aftermarket support for the type-S and cobalt isnt even comparable... nor will it be in 2 years from now.

Do i even need to mention resale value, build quality or handling.

Next thing you know you guys are gonna tell me the Corvette is a better car then the NSX.


Dont get me wrong i love the ss s/c but c'mon now... most of you are all giddy cause you just bought one and want it to be "the best"
Damn proof = Acura, wow that’s it man im sold! im going to trade in my car for an RSX.

You call us giddy about our cars but you act as if Acura is the best ever?!!?!? Its a glorified Honda that you are paying to much for! And compare a Corvette to an NSX, you have to be the single most idiotic person i have ever met, wow!

Corvette has better handling, looks, acceleration, performance, interior, exterior hell the dam name is better. Here is my proof = Corvette!

Get a clue, Never compare a Corvette to an NSX. Damn man Give me a lingenfelter twin turbo Corvette over an NSX any day.

The only Reason you are bashing the Cobalt is b/c you either own an Acura (witch is a Honda BTW if you didn’t know) Or straight out don’t like it.

"Now don’t get me wrong" ACURA/HONDA have some nice cars, like the S2000, RSX-S/Integra-R, TL, RL, NSX, etc... (they also have the experience to build great cars cars)

But if your going with price (like 99% of the population who dont have millions to throw around) the Cobalt is better, performance, interior, exterior. All you have going for you is your aftermarket but hell m even making sure that ours catches up. And i guarantee you that it will catch up.

I don’t think the Cobalt is the best car in the world, hell there are plenty I would pick over it, but its better then a Type-S.

Sorry if I offended anyone who own a Type-S or an Acura, but this guy just pisses me off.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:48 AM
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first off i would choose a corvette over an nsx any day of the week.

2nd, for the guy that added all the stuff to his rsx, no way in hell it will total up to $38k. and why in the world would you get them from the factory like that when you can get them for half the price somewhere else?

look, i'm not hear to say the rsx is better or the cobalt is better. each car has their flaws and advantages. the cotalt SS is priced down for a reason. it's all speed. the rsx is a better car overall. better suspension, clutch, gearing, braking, etc. the rsx is also N/A and it puts out a great fight as shown the vids posted in here w/ the cobalt SS and the rsx-s racing from a dig. the rsx-s had i/h/e and torque dampner and ecu reflash but it was still N/A. just stop trash talking about the two cars cuz no car is better.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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I just built a Type-S on the Acura site it came up to around 27k...38 is pushing it (like straight out the door man)

From what i saw the RSX only won the dig race right? im not sure the camera was to shaky, It might of been N/A but it was still modded...ALOT. id want to race that Type-S w/ my ss when i get my headers and intake and im sure ill take it but see that’s comparing to uneven cars, (b/c of mods).

Who cars who’s car is better the fact that he’s talking all this **** w/o anything to back up his claim’s pisses me of. I mean hell i admit to being a fan boy i will defend the cobalt cuz i own it.. its just natural, I know that there are cars that are equal and better then it in every way, but he just glorifies his car like their is no equal. And i HATE that.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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I'm in Canada, Dollar value is different, but Drenz is from canada is well so it made perfect sense to present those numbers to him.

and I was comparing stock for stock with the same options,
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Drenz = Rice!
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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btw I love RSX Type-S it was my second choice over the SS/SC
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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i think the fact that many people have chosen an SS s/c over a type S is a compliment to the cobalt and speaks for itself. Regardless for their reason. there are many nice cars in the 20-25k price range. So i don't know what cobalt guys are getting mad about.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Acura makes great cars, and if you were looking to buy an RSX-s is a good idea, but when you get into the discussion of RSX-s or SS/SC cobalt go with the cobalt. Faster, and i like the body more. The only disadvantage is taht there is not that many aftermarket parts for the cobalt, as of now. But give it a year and we will be up to speed with them in the parts department. But dont think that the RSX-s is bad its a great car.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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They Type-S isnt a bad car at all its got the damn Integra-R name backing it up, the car will destroy almost anything on the street if modded right, just camparing them stock to an SS is different.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Drenz
heres my proof = ACURA

Sure the S/C is .5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile... woopty do - the aftermarket support for the type-S and cobalt isnt even comparable... nor will it be in 2 years from now.

Do i even need to mention resale value, build quality or handling.

Next thing you know you guys are gonna tell me the Corvette is a better car then the NSX.


Dont get me wrong i love the ss s/c but c'mon now... most of you are all giddy cause you just bought one and want it to be "the best"
I don't think this idiot will be replying to any of our responses, he pretty much just got flamed out of the forum


2nd, for the guy that added all the stuff to his rsx, no way in hell it will total up to $38k. and why in the world would you get them from the factory like that when you can get them for half the price somewhere else?
As the other guys said, those are Canadian prices

look, i'm not hear to say the rsx is better or the cobalt is better. each car has their flaws and advantages. the cotalt SS is priced down for a reason. it's all speed. the rsx is a better car overall. better suspension, clutch, gearing, braking, etc. the rsx is also N/A and it puts out a great fight as shown the vids posted in here w/ the cobalt SS and the rsx-s racing from a dig. the rsx-s had i/h/e and torque dampner and ecu reflash but it was still N/A. just stop trash talking about the two cars cuz no car is better.
Don't get too cocky there man. The SS isn't "priced down", its just that the Acura is over priced. You're mostly paying for the Acura name. You also contradicted yourself in your post, which I highlighed for you

I can't believe you said the SS S/C is "all speed" Not only does it outrun the RSX-S, but it easily outhandles it and outbrakes it as well - I suppose that makes the RSX "all nothing".

You also can't say the Acura is a "better car overall" like its a fact, thats your opinion. Personally I think the SS S/C is a better car overall, it also more performance oriented.

The RSX-S may have a slightly better suspension and clutch, but the rest of what you wrote is not true. The SS S/C has better spaced gearing, overdrive isn't so damn short, and the brakes are definitely better than the RSX.

They are very different cars and each has its advantages and disadvantages - but personally I prefer the Cobalt SS over the Acura, and I think I speak for most people on this board when I say that.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ouchburns
Drenz = Rice!
no need for that. consider it a warning...or go back and edit it.

ill post a video in a little bit that shows a couple of races b/t a still n/a rsx-s and a stock ss.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Don't get too cocky there man. The SS isn't "priced down", its just that the Acura is over priced. You're mostly paying for the Acura name.
actually the 05 rsx-s' have been selling since debut OTD for 21-22k. so i wouldnt really say overpriced.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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okidoke...

heres the video...

http://www.cobaltss.org/media/cobaltvsrsx.wmv

here is the thread in which it came from...

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=287503

now given the rsx is modded, it does show some proof, but this is a 02-04, the 05's with the same mods would net alot more power. the guy that owns the cobalt even admits to losing to and not being able to hang with another rsx'er around there that had k-pro. now give the cobalt the same mods, different story of course...lol. the rsx driver is shifting really slowly as well too. in my honest opinion they only had two runs where they both launched at the same time, the last race and the one from 40 mph....but tis good to watch non the less...
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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no comments now? where'd everybody go?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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yeah, i saw that vid a few days ago. nice to know a lightly modded N/A type S can take a cobalt SS from a dig. can you imagine if that type S had a S/C or turbo in it?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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PEOPLE - i simply state my opinion and all of a sudden its an insult battle like elementry school kids...


The title SIMPLY says appeal, looks, performance... does it say price or bang for the buck anywhere in there?

Oh and thanks for the ricer, idiot, etc... comments - it directly shows how intellegent you are at holding a simple debate - you have nothing smart to say so you curse me out.

Im getting too much attention - i'll just join the masses... Cobalt s/c is the best sport compact on the market... for the dollar.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
yeah, i saw that vid a few days ago. nice to know a lightly modded N/A type S can take a cobalt SS from a dig. can you imagine if that type S had a S/C or turbo in it?
To be fair... can you imagine if the Cobalt had Vtec? Can you imagine if the Cobalt had 11.0:1 compression? We're comparing a factory FI motor to a highly strung NA motor. Apples and oranges my friend.

Just curious. What would a race header, full exhaust, intake, torque dampner and a Hondata cost? Seems like most of the bolt ons no?

BTW - I'd probably take the Cobalt due to the significant price difference in Canada.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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To be fair... can you imagine if the Cobalt had Vtec? Can you imagine if the Cobalt had 11.0:1 compression? We're comparing a factory FI motor to a highly strung NA motor. Apples and oranges my friend.

Just curious. What would a race header, full exhaust, intake, torque dampner and a Hondata cost? Seems like most of the bolt ons no?

BTW - I'd probably take the Cobalt due to the significant price difference in Canada.
damn that would be one badass cobalt. unfortunantly that will never happen. and that N/A engine is not highly strung. there is so much more stuff you can do to that engine. i know 2 people that have over 250hp and still N/A on that engine.

BRAND NEW.................................................USED
race header= $500............................................$4 00
greddy exhaust= $500 (off ebay)........................$300
torque dampner= $200.......................................$100
hondata #4= $500 (group buy special).................$300 (swap ecu w/ another person)

total cost=$1,700....................................... ........$1,100
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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damn that would be one badass cobalt. unfortunantly that will never happen. and that N/A engine is not highly strung. there is so much more stuff you can do to that engine. i know 2 people that have over 250hp and still N/A on that engine.

BRAND NEW.................................................USED
race header= $500............................................$4 00
greddy exhaust= $500 (off ebay)........................$300
torque dampner= $200.......................................$100
hondata #4= $500 (group buy special).................$300 (swap ecu w/ another person)

total cost=$1,700....................................... ........$1,100
Not too expensive if you shop for parts.

My point about the high strung 4 banger was not to imply it was maxxed out, just to imply that it is at a much higher level of tune to make it's power. FI motors are typically rather simple, low compression, fuel and boost. Two different means to the same end.
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