Hey guys there's a guy in my town that's kinda cocky he has a stock ws6 m6 and i was wondering if worst comes to worst could i beat him i'm stock btw.

Thanks

 

From a roll yes, from a dig, no!

 

what year is it?

 

yea that's what i thought would happen

you know i never asked him about that stupid mistake on my part but i know it's all stock and he bought it off ebay lol

 

find a pic of a similar model and post its year here, that will give us an idea of what kind of power it has and such, then we can give you an accurate judgement. you can beat him on a roll but from a dig its not likely, yanno traction issues and such.

 

ummm stock ss/tc beating a stock ws6 from a roll? Probably not. My friends stock 02 Firehawk rapes me pretty bad.

 

That's it ^^ it's an 01 and i just checked drag times it traps 104 so it'll be close

 

yeah, no way a stock tc is beating a stock ws6. the lsx motors yank anything and everything known to man up top.

 

my buddy has an 04 GTO (LS1 also)
weighs a little more then the T/As
and he beats me from a roll and everything else
i have a catback and a drop in filter
he has an intake and a short shifter

 

ls1 ws6 traps more than 104

ls1 will will from a dig and a roll

 

Average drivers trap 107 some have gone as high as 111 on stock power. Throw slicks on the car and it's a mid 12 second car stock.

 

Yeah, I say you're toast from a dig or roll.

 

I know there are several stock SS/TC's that have beaten low 13 second cars from a roll. I've seen them beat LS1 Camaro's, Mach 1 Mustangs and other low 13 second cars.

 

Do it! Then show us with a vid what happened

 

What he said.
The TA should be mid 13's at 106 on a not so good day.

 

That is correct, and the SS/TC is a 13.5-13.6 second car on a good day, so from a roll, where the SS/TC is most deadly, it should beat a stock LS1 F-body.

 

no, and not from a dig.

That V8 and the WS6's light curb weight will yank the **** outta him regardless of roll/dig. It has a better power/weight ratio AND its a 6-speed with good top end power.

335hp/3400 lbs = .098
260hp/2900 lbs = .089

more hp/lb + V8 top end = dead cobalt

 

But a Mach 1 Mustang, which is compared almost exactly to an LS1 F-body, has been beaten from a roll by a stock SS/TC, and there are tons of stock 05+ GT's that have been beaten by a stock SS/TC from a roll. There are tons of videos out there showing this aswell. I know from a dig the SS/TC wont win, unless the F-body is an auto, or a shitty driver and the SS/TC has one of those awesome drivers who have driven their stock SS/TC to 13.5-13.6 runs.

 

1) That mach 1 must have been an auto
2) The mach 1 has less hp/tq than a WS6
3) The mach 1 is not a 6 speed
4) The mach 1 must have had a VERY BAD DRIVER

I call bs on a stock TC taking a stock mach.

mach1:

305hp/3300 lbs
320tq

SS/TC:

260hp/2900 lbs
260tq

If u look at the hp/lb and tq/lb, the cobalt is stll behind.

Cobalt: .0896hp/tq/lb

Mach 1: .0924hp/lb
.0969tq/lb

from a roll, AWSOME DRIVERS go out the window. Awsome drivers only count for the dig race, not a roll. 13.5 is impressive, but that is because of the driver. When u take the dig launching skills out of the equation, a roll race is a completely different animal. I can tell u a stage 2 balt will hang with a stock SS/TC from a roll. Do u honestly think a WS6 isnt going to beat a stage 2 LSJ from a roll? Comon now.

 

The average LS1 F-body stock runs what, 13.1-13.3, the Mach 1 runs 13.2-13.4 on average. There are tons of 4.10 geared, DR Mach 1's in the 12's, and tons in the mid to low 12's with bolt ons, and that is not even a cam swap. I've seen stock SS/TC's beat low 13 second cars from a roll on numerous occasions.

 

no no and no

my dad owns a ls1 vette..convert (so about the same weight as a t/a)

stock for stock..from a roll..he will win everytime.

with the tune i got now..ill pull ahead.

spend the 250 bucks, get a tune..and tell him you'll race for cash


so much troof in this.

stg2 wil hang with the lnf

T/A will rape stg 2

see what hes getting at?

 

lol oh well the guy was really cocky so i'll race him now and when i get back from working in ok. i'll put parts in my car and race for money next time and i'll vid the one tonight oh one more ? the camera that's gonna be used is a 1080p camera and my friend that owns it had trouble uploading it to the computer is it even possible??

 

Stock WS6 will pull low 13's and 106+mph through the traps

All LS1's have 350+hp. They were just rated low to not **** off C5 owners

If anyone thinks an LNF has a chance against an LS1 f-body you need to do some research

Years ago in MM&FF. A bone stock 02 SS 6spd put down 317rwhp. 317rwhp = 365hp at the crank

 

My stock 99' put down 309/305
Im not feelin it that my Cobalt could have pulled away from my Z when it was stock.

A roll would have been interesting, but a win......wouldn't happen stock for stock

 

so my dads c5 would put down the same power?

tuned ss/tc's put down 300 whp and +300 wtq. im thinking with intake/catless downpipe/tune i could take my dad in the 1/4 mile.