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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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solstice race... nao!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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solstice race... nao!!!
Kay, here's one!

YouTube - Stang v. Blown Ecotec Cav

me vs. blown cav vs fully built procharged stang
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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I've beaten a supercharged m3 do you want a cookie vids are on here
Lolz nice run
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pantherqs
1) Learn to quote.
2) My HPT solstice can beat up your Trifecta solstice.
3) I don't own a Cobalt.
To bad You live in Canada it would b nice
To run 30 psi against 30 psi :-)
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ripped
To bad You live in Canada it would b nice
To run 30 psi against 30 psi :-)
You mean 30 vs 25. Ive ran 30 for a total of 3 pulls maybe when I went gms1 and realized the malt tables are touchy as ****. Sorry but unlike some toolsheds I understand the meaning of turbo efficiency, also lolringlands. Ps. Supercharged m3s are slow. But BROOL STORY CO nonetheless.

* Edit: But yes, too bad.

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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zander916
I took others advice and launch at 2,000 rpm and kinda roll into the throttle, but quickly. Seems to work pretty well.
Ill try that. WHat do you guys think the optimum RPM is to shift at when you hit peak torque? 4k?
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Zander916
I took others advice and launch at 2,000 rpm and kinda roll into the throttle, but quickly. Seems to work pretty well.
There are so many variables about launching. Tires, road type (concrete, asphalt, prepped, not prepped), is the road dry or not, blah blah blah. You have to practice alot to determine the feel of everything. It is a skill that must be learned, not taught. IF you stop at a light going straight, even if you aren't racing try launching through second, eventually you will get the feel. Thats what I did with my older rides.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GoDFaTHeRSHaDy
Ill try that. WHat do you guys think the optimum RPM is to shift at when you hit peak torque? 4k?
unless I've missed something, your car is a totally different ball of wax;

from the factory our ECM limits torque somewhere around 2k rpm - it literally flat-lines....

lemme see if I can find a pic...



I have probably been launching at too high of an RMP according to some info posted here - but I normally shift somewhere around 6k rpm ~ I am unsure if my RPD is to accurate and the tach is slow or not (can only watch one at a time!) ~ but wehn I used my RPD for the shift light feature, I could have sworn I slowed down (eg: shifted a smidge too early)

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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:22 AM
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mmmkay
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GoDFaTHeRSHaDy
mmmkay
what?!

I'm seeing a debadged car in your sig, and this text behind it;
Ultra Metallic Silver 2007 SS/SC: 2.0L I-4: high flow header, highflow
So I'm posting under the presumption that your sig is your car.

these guys have been talking about running their LNF cars;

I'm actually trying to help - and since advise they have given might be geared purely towards SS/TC's
~ I wouldn't know where to start looking for an LSJ dyno chart (let alone one that might match your car) to figure out where you make peak hp/torque - so don't ave a clue where your optimal shift point is.

What you want to do is shift just a little past peak hp - so that when you are in the next gear (keep in mind you loose a little bit of revs during a shift) you will be right at the sweet spot...
if you shift too early, you chance bogging...

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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:56 AM
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Sorry. I TOTALLY THREAD JACKED!!! Its so early, just got home from a long day at the prison and I need to go to bed. My apologies to all.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Some people make it sound like a HP tune is something universal ...like trifecta . You can have an HP tune from someone like BYT or Term.......... Then there's joe blow at the local performance shop. It really makes it hard to get a true gauge of performance with a HP tune ........ they can be all over the place. Where as Trifecta's tuning stays fairly consistent . ( all thou some cars will data log different than other... and be able to run more timing or have to run less ..... ect ect ) We could see video's go each way forever with all the variables.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Some people make it sound like a HP tune is something universal ...like trifecta . You can have an HP tune from someone like BYT or Term.......... Then there's joe blow at the local performance shop. It really makes it hard to get a true gauge of performance with a HP tune ........ they can be all over the place. Where as Trifecta's tuning stays fairly consistent . ( all thou some cars will data log different than other... and be able to run more timing or have to run less ..... ect ect ) We could see video's go each way forever with all the variables.
Pretty much this, in a nutshell.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Some people make it sound like a HP tune is something universal ...like trifecta . You can have an HP tune from someone like BYT or Term.......... Then there's joe blow at the local performance shop. It really makes it hard to get a true gauge of performance with a HP tune ........ they can be all over the place. Where as Trifecta's tuning stays fairly consistent . ( all thou some cars will data log different than other... and be able to run more timing or have to run less ..... ect ect ) We could see video's go each way forever with all the variables.
I'm a newbie to the tuning side of things, and even I understood this...

I had equated some of some of the earlier posts to an online version of an endowment contest;
oh yeah!? ~ well mine's THIS big


Now if I could just get this moates device to datalog my OBDI car... I might have a hope of getting the car actually set up right - rather than doing totally blind changes...
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by soundjunky
I'm a newbie to the tuning side of things, and even I understood this...

I had equated some of some of the earlier posts to an online version of an endowment contest;




Now if I could just get this moates device to datalog my OBDI car... I might have a hope of getting the car actually set up right - rather than doing totally blind changes...
I remember replacing a obd1 93 corvette CCM with a tech1 . I was helping my buddy who was the service manager at our local chevy dealership . It had a digital odometer and during the reprogramming it asked for the mileage .... we could have put in anything we wanted lol....... Those where the days hehe.

With OBD1 everyone was chipping this or that ... I still get people who ask if my car has a chip in it or been chipped hehe.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
... Those where the days hehe.

With OBD1 everyone was chipping this or that ... I still get people who ask if my car has a chip in it or been chipped hehe.
yeah that's the way I do it, I physically bur a new chip, and replace it with the one from in the ECM;
iirc both OBD1 & the transitional "OBD1.5" were both that way...
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Only homos drive Solstices... just saying.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
Only homos drive Solstices... just saying.
ok, you took my manhood allusion, to a whole new level...

how's this;
if you have something legitimate to contribute, post up - if you're only looking to raise crap STFU.

I'd love to Have a Solstice GXP - make mine an '09/'10 coupe with the manual transmission please!
(of the few coupes I've seen, they have all been automatics; and only recently did I find out that a couple 2010's were built!)

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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i think the sky looks better
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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i think the sky looks better
either as long as it has the hard top in dark silver.... drool
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunney_07
either as long as it has the hard top in dark silver.... drool
if by hard top, you mean the coupe, that was a Pontiac only deal...
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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yeah trifecta is overated when you have a catless dp and a drop in filter and all the other guy has is a tune not to mention it was from a dig next time let the kappa forums know your mods before you open your mouth
[quote author=pantherqs link=topic=5316.msg73296#msg73296 date=1285033454]
In your opinion, no. In mine, yes. I'll throw a competently hpt tuned lnf against a trifecta tune any day of the week. Key word, competently. The amount of toolsheds running around with HPT nowadays is astounding.
\remeber that lolz il spank your cobalt in my trifecta solstice any day boy[/QUOTE]

bud first post says c my signiture for mods.....
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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I'm the one that did the tuning on the HPT one. Stock DAL's, no additional timing, just hand smoothed. .87-.86 lambda throughout and all the right things in all the right places. Also he's at about 19 pounds. Car's got alot more in it.

Related sidenote, the OP can't drive for ****. ^_^ SORRY JARRED BUDDY =D
hahah well show me how to drive without NLS lol

Edit: i also forgot to say this is on a **** motor too

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
Only homos drive Solstices... just saying.
Only homos ride 768's... just sayin'.

PS: RWD bro.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pantherqs
Only homos ride 768's... just sayin'.

PS: RWD bro.
What is a 768?
And I was just messing around. I hate when someone drives a different car, comes to this forum just to faff the other members here. Everyone seems to get flustered by it.
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