Me vs. 08 STi
05-11-2008, 01:59 AM
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Me vs. 08 STi
OK not bullshit on this, I'm not lying or anything. I'm cruising home from school in my
07 Cobalt SS/SC and at a stop light is a beautiful black 08 STi, (the wagon looking ones) with a California license plate in front of me waiting to make a turn. When the light turns green we both go and when I passed him (at speed limit kind of) he looks at me and I look at him
. At the next stop light he gets behind me, when the light turned green I launched wtih out tire-spin and he gets on my ass then merges to the right lane. From 50mph hes like 10 feet behind me then as I get to 105 I look at my mirror and hes not catching up. I know he was trying because I could hear his motor rev and his deep exhaust. The weird thing is is that I don't have a stage 2, I'm completely stock. I'm gonna guess because his STi was from Cali, his motor maybe tuned for sea level California spec driving and since he drove all the way up here, he may have lost some power.
07 Cobalt SS/SC and at a stop light is a beautiful black 08 STi, (the wagon looking ones) with a California license plate in front of me waiting to make a turn. When the light turns green we both go and when I passed him (at speed limit kind of) he looks at me and I look at him
. At the next stop light he gets behind me, when the light turned green I launched wtih out tire-spin and he gets on my ass then merges to the right lane. From 50mph hes like 10 feet behind me then as I get to 105 I look at my mirror and hes not catching up. I know he was trying because I could hear his motor rev and his deep exhaust. The weird thing is is that I don't have a stage 2, I'm completely stock. I'm gonna guess because his STi was from Cali, his motor maybe tuned for sea level California spec driving and since he drove all the way up here, he may have lost some power.
05-11-2008, 02:03 AM
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Elevation changes should not lose him ~100HP. STI's rated at 305 HP / 290 lb-ft trq if i remeber right. And you are rated at 205 HP/200 lb-ft orque. You must be a godly driver. Super kill none the less.
05-11-2008, 02:18 AM
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05-11-2008, 03:23 AM
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it depends really. STi's need to launch HARD to hang with cars in their class. If you launch an sti at 2500 rpm's it's gonna run a high 13/low 14...so its very possible he wasn't ******* with you since he started behind you.
05-11-2008, 03:51 AM
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The EVO and STI are only really fast from a dig stock. When it comes to running out the power band though, stock STI's and EVO's really are not that fast. Basically you took the launch away from him and all you saw was the cars power to run out the revs. I've proven this several times myself that once you take away their launch, they just simply need a lot more power to keep up. 
05-11-2008, 04:10 AM
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The EVO and STI are only really fast from a dig stock. When it comes to running out the power band though, stock STI's and EVO's really are not that fast. Basically you took the launch away from him and all you saw was the cars power to run out the revs. I've proven this several times myself that once you take away their launch, they just simply need a lot more power to keep up.
He was ******* around and had the common sense to let out before getting up to 100+ MPH.
05-11-2008, 04:59 AM
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yes... that is why it's a low 13 second car. can you spin the tires at the bottom of second? cause i could stock. If my car STOCK had the traction an sti has and could cut the same kinda 60's, it would have been a mid 12 second car, but in reality in ran mid-low 13's. BONE STOCK sti's can cut 1.7 60's...most fwd cars with an average driver will cut a 2.1ish. That's 4 tenths made up in the first 60 feet alone, and with that kind of advantage that early, you will just keep pullin. If you made a bone stock sti rwd it would run mid 13's at best...fwd and it's a high 13 second car PERIOD. They take great to mods and can be monsters in any kind of race with the right mods, but stock, the first 100 feet is where they gain all their ground.
05-11-2008, 05:00 AM
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yes... that is why it's a low 13 second car. can you spin the tires at the bottom of second? cause i could stock. If my car STOCK had the traction an sti has and could cut the same kinda 60's, it would have been a mid 12 second car, but in reality in ran mid-low 13's. BONE STOCK sti's can cut 1.7 60's...most fwd cars with an average driver will cut a 2.1ish. That's 4 tenths made up in the first 60 feet alone, and with that kind of advantage that early, you will just keep pullin. If you made a bone stock sti rwd it would run mid 13's at best...fwd and it's a high 13 second car PERIOD. They take great to mods and can be monsters in any kind of race with the right mods, but stock, the first 100 feet is where they gain all their ground.
05-11-2008, 05:08 AM
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yes... that is why it's a low 13 second car. can you spin the tires at the bottom of second? cause i could stock. If my car STOCK had the traction an sti has and could cut the same kinda 60's, it would have been a mid 12 second car, but in reality in ran mid-low 13's. BONE STOCK sti's can cut 1.7 60's...most fwd cars with an average driver will cut a 2.1ish. That's 4 tenths made up in the first 60 feet alone, and with that kind of advantage that early, you will just keep pullin. If you made a bone stock sti rwd it would run mid 13's at best...fwd and it's a high 13 second car PERIOD. They take great to mods and can be monsters in any kind of race with the right mods, but stock, the first 100 feet is where they gain all their ground.
05-11-2008, 02:01 PM
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05-11-2008, 06:51 PM
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I dont see a stock SS/SC winning on a roll with an STI. I think you would probably need S2 or better. When i had my SS/SC, stock i lost out by a car and a half, but with S2 i was a nose ahead.
05-11-2008, 07:14 PM
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na you guys were on equal playing ground the cars adlust themselves for climate air density etc...
not at the wheels, drive train loss in a awd is a bitch! they make i think 15-20% less at the wheels and rolls arent there playing ground.
also remember anything can happen on the street... shitty driver conditions bla bla
also remember anything can happen on the street... shitty driver conditions bla bla
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05-11-2008, 07:19 PM
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y in the hell would u say that lol. oh wait u have a NA SS. everyone knows that most SS/SC's dyno higher than 205whp and fyi the new STI's dyno stock 250-255 whp/ 260 wtq
05-11-2008, 08:37 PM
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I guess someone needs to learn the lesson of how much a good launch and how important the first 60' are when it comes to times. Take any stock SS/SC and any stock STI from a 40mph roll, and the STI will loose out. Remember that 300ish bhp has to be transfered to 4 wheels instead of two, so what gets to the ground is not usually anywhere near the bhp rating. The SS has been proven to be underated from the factory and usually dyno the 205bhp or more. Then you take the STI's launch away from it and comparitively it is a 3395lb vs a car that is 2880lbs. Plus, take into consideration the STI's short gearing compared to our long gearing, and the STI is going to have to shift meanwhile we are still running out our long gears with less shifts to slow progress. But if you want to continue to think the STI let off, be my guest.
05-11-2008, 08:43 PM
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I believe part of this is true and part is bs. But in reality the SS is underrated and the STi is overrated. But the fact remains that even with that said the horsepower/weight ratio still favors the STi. OR something couldve been wrong with his car. Not too long ago my car was loud as **** but was missing about 25whp bc of a bad header.
05-11-2008, 08:57 PM
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Again I'm not bullshitting, he seriously was still behind me at 105mph. Eventually he would have caught up. I agree with 2K5SS/SC? on the power transfer and the power/weight ratio.
05-11-2008, 10:46 PM
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I believe part of this is true and part is bs. But in reality the SS is underrated and the STi is overrated. But the fact remains that even with that said the horsepower/weight ratio still favors the STi. OR something couldve been wrong with his car. Not too long ago my car was loud as **** but was missing about 25whp bc of a bad header.