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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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EEWWWWWwwwwww...... GT's are slow as dog ****
Very ignorant statement. GTs can be had in the low 12s easy. Too many retards just have them and think a chrome intake, flowmasters, and a hypertech tune is the fastest thing ever. Thats a low 13s car.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Very ignorant statement. GTs can be had in the low 12s easy. Too many retards just have them and think a chrome intake, flowmasters, and a hypertech tune is the fastest thing ever. Thats a low 13s car.
low 12s with bolt ons? The only gt in 12s with bolt ons also has n20 or tons of engine wrok. Na mod motors are garbage. I would know i used to own a svt.

And ur wrong. Those bolt ons wont net low 13's.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 04:34 AM
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Maybe boltons gears and slicks for mid high 12s
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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i just spent an hour looking at used GT500s... Used 07s for under 35 grand! most of em are low miles too
The best part about them is that they will never lose there value because of the shelby name.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
so wait....

U guys ran a 10 sec 1/8th mile?



Youre really dumb. A GT500 and terminator will hold well over 700 whp stock internals. Hell the block in the SVT was rated to 1600 BEFORE it cracked. How about any of ur chevys? Not one chevy can handle the abuse and tolerences of an SVT. You wanna boost a camaro to that whp? Get ready for engine work.

Forged FI modular motors = WIN
NA GM motors = FAIL
that wasnt me. that was my step brother being a douche bag. i leave my passwords on my computer screen on post its and he went on here because he knows that is what i am always on. i respected every car out there. not a big ford guy. but i know they make power.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
Maybe boltons gears and slicks for mid high 12s
The 04's dont make enough power, even with bolt ons. Their engines are very weak, and anemic especially in the upper powerband.

A newer GT with over 300 from the factory can make mid 12's with those mods. A new edge, not so much.

Originally Posted by Mike08ss/tc
that wasnt me. that was my step brother being a douche bag. i leave my passwords on my computer screen on post its and he went on here because he knows that is what i am always on. i respected every car out there. not a big ford guy. but i know they make power.
you should bitch slap him

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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
The 04's dont make enough power, even with bolt ons. Their engines are very weak, and anemic especially in the upper powerband.

A newer GT with over 300 from the factory can make mid 12's with those mods. A new edge, not so much.



you should bitch slap him
trust me he already got his beating. i didnt even know. until i logged on after 4days and i had all this **** like. your dumb and all this other stuff. i was like what the helll did i do. i havent been opn in forever.

i am just wondering have you ran your car at the track yet.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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trust me he already got his beating. i didnt even know. until i logged on after 4days and i had all this **** like. your dumb and all this other stuff. i was like what the helll did i do. i havent been opn in forever.

i am just wondering have you ran your car at the track yet.
Im waiting on a few mods before I go back. I still have injectors in the mail. Then Im getting a WOT box, and the high boost kit. Then Ill be all set to go.

I did run it with a drop in filter and got 13.9@106.6. With my current mods, not yet.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
low 12s with bolt ons? The only gt in 12s with bolt ons also has n20 or tons of engine wrok. Na mod motors are garbage. I would know i used to own a svt.

And ur wrong. Those bolt ons wont net low 13's.
on a 2 valve... tune intake cams exhaust intake manifold throttle body maf will get you high 11's low 12's. On the stock longblock (with exception to the cams)

On spray that would be a low 11 car. Not really impressive. But showing it can be done. The Na mod motors arent junk. They will respond nicely to certain mods. But yes they love forced induction.

As for the said mustang gt in this race I believe it to be a mid to high 13 car. Car would need a stall to really help it get going.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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on a 2 valve... tune intake cams exhaust intake manifold throttle body maf will get you high 11's low 12's. On the stock longblock (with exception to the cams)

On spray that would be a low 11 car. Not really impressive. But showing it can be done. The Na mod motors arent junk. They will respond nicely to certain mods. But yes they love forced induction.

As for the said mustang gt in this race I believe it to be a mid to high 13 car. Car would need a stall to really help it get going.
You wont make more than 300 whp on those mods. 300 whp is not low 12 territory on a 2v OR 4v.

Cams also dont do **** on the 4.6l. The 4.6l is designed for N20 and boost, not to be NA. You would be lucky to make high 12's on heads, cams, full bolt ons AND dr's.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
The best part about them is that they will never lose there value because of the shelby name.
Your nuts if you think that.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
You wont make more than 300 whp on those mods. 300 whp is not low 12 territory on a 2v OR 4v.

Cams also dont do **** on the 4.6l. The 4.6l is designed for N20 and boost, not to be NA. You would be lucky to make high 12's on heads, cams, full bolt ons AND dr's.
Ive owned 7 mustangs. Those mods will VERY easily make around 380rwhp. The 4.6 was not designed for boost or n2o it just responds well to boost (not so much n2o unless an aftermarket manifold used)
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Ive owned 7 mustangs. Those mods will VERY easily make around 380rwhp. The 4.6 was not designed for boost or n2o it just responds well to boost (not so much n2o unless an aftermarket manifold used)


O man..... U must be smoking crack... No ******* GT is going to make much over 300 whp without serious engine work. PERIOD. I owned a ******* 01 cobra. Ive done my research and I know what they can/cant do.

Hell, its retarded difficult to make 400 whp NA on a 4v 99-01 cobra let alone a piece of **** GT. 2v GT's are garbage.

and the NA motors respond safest to N20. Thats why everyone and their brother runs either a 75 or 100 shot. 4.6l NA motors are not safe after 450 whp on boost.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC


O man..... U must be smoking crack... No ******* GT is going to make much over 300 whp without serious engine work. PERIOD. I owned a ******* 01 cobra. Ive done my research and I know what they can/cant do.

Hell, its retarded difficult to make 400 whp NA on a 4v 99-01 cobra let alone a piece of **** GT. 2v GT's are garbage.

and the NA motors respond safest to N20. Thats why everyone and their brother runs either a 75 or 100 shot. 4.6l NA motors are not safe after 450 whp on boost.
great youve owned 1 mustang. I have been in the mustang community for 12 years. Stock 2 valve (PI head motors) will do 220-240 to the wheels stock depending on gearing and transmission. 260 is possible with just exhaust and still on the stock tune etc. The 4 valve motors are actually harder to get power out of stock. But the 2 valves hold some locked away power. Hell Hot Rod magazine got 400 crank hp out of a carbed 2 valve. More power couldve been had with more radical cams. Granted their motor had ported heads but the cams were fairly mild. Oh and you dont need major motor work. Yes for your 4 valve a fair amount of money would be needed and yes the more cost effective way will always be forced induction. But it is very possible. And factory 2 valve plastic manifolds have problems with anything other than a dry shot and even then its risky. Also as the mach1 proved even a slight loss in top end power can be made up with a big surge in mid range power as the Mach1s have faster stock off the showroom floor times than the 15hp more powerful 99-01 cobras. Though im curious how you went from an 01 cobra to an ss/sc. As much potential as there is in the LSJ theres still more potential in a modular motor'd mustang.

In retrospect if you dont know what your talking about then dont talk just sit back and listen and learn.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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great youve owned 1 mustang. I have been in the mustang community for 12 years. Stock 2 valve (PI head motors) will do 220-240 to the wheels stock depending on gearing and transmission. 260 is possible with just exhaust and still on the stock tune etc. The 4 valve motors are actually harder to get power out of stock. But the 2 valves hold some locked away power. Hell Hot Rod magazine got 400 crank hp out of a carbed 2 valve. More power couldve been had with more radical cams. Granted their motor had ported heads but the cams were fairly mild. Oh and you dont need major motor work. Yes for your 4 valve a fair amount of money would be needed and yes the more cost effective way will always be forced induction. But it is very possible. And factory 2 valve plastic manifolds have problems with anything other than a dry shot and even then its risky. Though im curious how you went from an 01 cobra to an ss/sc. As much potential as there is in the LSJ theres still more potential in a modular motor'd mustang.
In retrospect if you dont know what your talking about then dont talk just sit back and listen and learn.
how is porting and cams, and converting an engine to carburated not major engine work? Bolt ons do not put GT's into the 300 range. Engine work an cams do.

I actually dont have an LSJ. I have a CSRT4. My 01 was totalled when I got side swiped by a mini van full of 8 latino women ( not a joke ). The SVT was fun, but being NA made it very limited to power adders. The only way to make good cheap power was with N20. The NA cobras enjoy 100 shots.

I have been on the mustang forums. I was on there all the time when I owned my SVT. I know what people run in GT's. With engine work, 12's are possible. Without engine work, 12's are not possible without a power adder of some sort.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
You wont make more than 300 whp on those mods. 300 whp is not low 12 territory on a 2v OR 4v.

Cams also dont do **** on the 4.6l. The 4.6l is designed for N20 and boost, not to be NA. You would be lucky to make high 12's on heads, cams, full bolt ons AND dr's.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/4-6l-...et-vid-up.html

You really dont know what you are talking about. Power isn't everything, and the Edge mustang is a great platform. Here is a DD 12.4 with no power adder. You can get great power out of 2vs with the right combo, you obviously didnt know how to make the right combo. Adding ported heads to that combo would take another 2 tenths or so off, maybe even more. 300whp is more than enough to get a 2v deep into the 12s.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
how is porting and cams, and converting an engine to carburated not major engine work? Bolt ons do not put GT's into the 300 range. Engine work an cams do.

I actually dont have an LSJ. I have a CSRT4. My 01 was totalled when I got side swiped by a mini van full of 8 latino women ( not a joke ). The SVT was fun, but being NA made it very limited to power adders. The only way to make good cheap power was with N20. The NA cobras enjoy 100 shots.

I have been on the mustang forums. I was on there all the time when I owned my SVT. I know what people run in GT's. With engine work, 12's are possible. Without engine work, 12's are not possible without a power adder of some sort.
you can do 380 with only the cams and supporting mods and not porting the heads. So essentially your never cracking the heads off. And boltons and tune can put a 2 valve in the 300hp + whp range.. seriously give it up man. Ive been on stangnet since 1999 Been into mustangs since 94-95 and loved them since before that. As far as that 01 cobra they do love small amounts of boost. Though the FR500 package for the 4.6 while expensive is pretty damn impressive for an NA motor though it can be replicated far cheaper. And its rated at 425hp NA. Apparently you didnt spend enough time in the mustang community.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by supernova1972
http://mustangforums.com/forum/4-6l-...et-vid-up.html

You really dont know what you are talking about. Power isn't everything, and the Edge mustang is a great platform. Here is a DD 12.4 with no power adder. You can get great power out of 2vs with the right combo, you obviously didnt know how to make the right combo. Adding ported heads to that combo would take another 2 tenths or so off, maybe even more. 300whp is more than enough to get a 2v deep into the 12s.

Wheres the slip? Wheres the dyno?

even the mustang owners are questioning this thread.

Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
you can do 380 with only the cams and supporting mods and not porting the heads. So essentially your never cracking the heads off. And boltons and tune can put a 2 valve in the 300hp + whp range.. seriously give it up man. Ive been on stangnet since 1999 Been into mustangs since 94-95 and loved them since before that. As far as that 01 cobra they do love small amounts of boost. Though the FR500 package for the 4.6 while expensive is pretty damn impressive for an NA motor though it can be replicated far cheaper. And its rated at 425hp NA. Apparently you didnt spend enough time in the mustang community.
The terminator and GT500 blocks are the only way to go. And I have yet to see a bolt on only ( NOT CAMS ) GT make 300 whp. Its not happening.

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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Wheres the slip? Wheres the dyno?

even the mustang owners are questioning this thread.



The terminator and GT500 blocks are the only way to go. And I have yet to see a bolt on only ( NOT CAMS ) GT make 300 whp. Its not happening.
actually the teksid blocks are the way to go. And it has happened and will happen again.
And the fact that your suggesting to run a terminator (iron block) over a teksid pretty much says you dont really know.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Wheres the slip? Wheres the dyno?

even the mustang owners are questioning this thread.



The terminator and GT500 blocks are the only way to go. And I have yet to see a bolt on only ( NOT CAMS ) GT make 300 whp. Its not happening.
Who cares about dyno numbers? Any racer knows dynos are just for tuning, there are videos of the runs, and that combo has been duplicated a hundred times. No one cares about whp they care about times. Stop trying to cover and admit you dont know 2vs, no one will care you were wrong.
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