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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dm919
Way to edit your post...too afraid to speak your mind?

Since you're dying to know how much I lost by instead of letting us know what year your Chevy Corsica is, I did the math to prove you wrong. Both my car and the Civic were travelling right at 68 mph at the finish line-so here's your answer:



And you're damn right I am proud. Your move, Einstein...
Nope..just don't want anyone (includes all on the forum) too complain how their vagina hurts... Waaa

I believe you just proved my original "dumb" statement for me...

"Cause, if you lost by let's say ...Oh, I don't know...by 4 tenths ...how many car lengths would that be...not counting the big lead by virtue of quicker reaction ( this means they take off before you)

4 lengths ? (By the way, the 4-5 lengths refers to a 1/4 mi run...)

What ...Are you bashing GM now?
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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Next time I will get it on video just for you. Anyway-my math is still not the 100% correct answer. This is because acceleration isn't a constant. I was actually gaining on the damn Civic anyway, so enough with your short bus math. You may have been mr. big shot at the drag strip back in the 70's when you were in high school, but now you're just pathetic.

Oh, and what kind of car do you drive? Simple question. This is an automotive forum. Do you even own a car? Borrowing your mom's Studebaker doesn't count btw...

And I was bashing the Corsica-which is a pos car-everyone knows that.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dm919
Next time I will get it on video just for you. Anyway-my math is still not the 100% correct answer. This is because acceleration isn't a constant. I was actually gaining on the damn Civic anyway, so enough with your short bus math. You may have been mr. big shot at the drag strip back in the 70's when you were in high school, but now you're just pathetic.

Oh, and what kind of car do you drive? Simple question. This is an automotive forum. Do you even own a car? Borrowing your mom's Studebaker doesn't count btw...

And I was bashing the Corsica-which is a pos car-everyone knows that.
Dude, It's your (short bus math) ...not mine.

That's why they conduct actual races instead of just trying to "math out" how much each each car weighs, HP, transmission, tires, gearing, driver skill, etc. and then say ..."Well this car would win by x amount"

Right, it was terrible growing up in the muscle car era... but racing a family car is really cool

What does the type of car that I drive, have to do with 4 tenths in a 1/4 mile translating to approx. 4 car lengths...

Plus, Unlike may others, I feel no need to shout out to everyone about what kind of car that I drive...
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dm919
Next time I will get it on video just for you. Anyway-my math is still not the 100% correct answer. This is because acceleration isn't a constant. I was actually gaining on the damn Civic anyway, so enough with your short bus math. You may have been mr. big shot at the drag strip back in the 70's when you were in high school, but now you're just pathetic.

Oh, and what kind of car do you drive? Simple question. This is an automotive forum. Do you even own a car? Borrowing your mom's Studebaker doesn't count btw...

And I was bashing the Corsica-which is a pos car-everyone knows that.
Perhaps if you visited the track more you'd realize it's generally accepted that a .1 difference in ET is roughly a car.

Also, as you stated your math is flawed because it leaves out too many variables such as R/T, traction, starting positions and differences in acceleration. It is pretty funny that your math proved him right when you were trying to prove him wrong though.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by xonic

Perhaps if you visited the track more you'd realize it's generally accepted that a .1 difference in ET is roughly a car.

Also, as you stated your math is flawed because it leaves out too many variables such as R/T, traction, starting positions and differences in acceleration. It is pretty funny that your math proved him right when you were trying to prove him wrong though.
Thank you....
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Oops I totally didn't see the 'finish margin' field on the timeslip

So the correct math, using a finish margin of .5958 is:

1 mph = 1.46 ft/sec.
Both cars travelling ~68 mph or 99.7 ft/sec.
E.T. difference = 0.5958 sec.

d = r*t
d = (99.7)*(0.5958)
d = 59.4 ft. (Margin of Civic's win)

1997 Civic = 13.7 ft long
(59.4) / (13.7) = 4.33
Meaning I lost by a margin of 4.33 car lengths
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Still isn't the ratio of .1 sec : 1 car length, but like Xonic said, there are many other factors involved.

I hereby apologize to Donjuaniii for mistakenly calling you out, but still want to know what kind of car you drive

Last edited by dm919; Mar 19, 2008 at 12:13 PM.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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wasn't this an HHR vs SS/SC thread? nothing against what's going on, i just wanted to read some more opinions on "the race"!
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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^It was a long night-fueled on my part by lack of sleep and alcohol. The thread is way off topic anyway with all the SS badge bashing going on.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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true. don't you hate opinions? lol

and lack of sleep + alcohol = my worst enemy
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dm919
^It was a long night-fueled on my part by lack of sleep and alcohol. The thread is way off topic anyway with all the SS badge bashing going on.
It was kind of fun though...

My daily driver is A 93 Dakota...but I do also have a 06 SS/SC with less than 2300 miles on it that I am SLOWLY building up... Like to find an old BB Mopar that I could afford...

You actually reminded me of the disputes that I have with my son sometimes...Admired the way you stuck your guns;

and keep racing whatever you run ... It is just bracket style or heads up by classes?

I was talking to guys at work about this thread today - they all thought it was funny - especially the part about "big shot in high school" - even though I did most of my racing afterwards
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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omg just race already stop complaining i want to see a vid lol.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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The one and only time I went to the track, it was heads up. I think I would do well in bracket racing if I could get my launches a little more consistent.

In high school, I had an '87 Celebrity wagon with the 2.8L V6 and 3-speed automatic. It would smoke the tiny 14 inch tires for about 15 feet. Everyone called it the '******* wagon'...
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Kinda boring here now
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by donjuaniii
I'll just give a final post then with these quotes (Voltaire and Mark Twain, I believe)

"Common sense is not so common"... and

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"



RELAX ....all in good spirited debate
Second quote is actually Abraham Lincoln. I got into an argument about this on the other css site a while back and proved my claim with a source while the other guy didn't. He also claimed Mark Twain. Don't know about the first though.

Also, I'll go on record for saying the SS/SC will beat the HHR SS.

The Grand Am Series teams with the Cobalts claimed to have dynod their engines and were seeing between 236-238hp at the flywheel. GM underrated the car. However, due to new SAE guidelines that require the power output to be measured at the flywheel, the LNF numbers are accurate. I think the actual numbers were 261hp/263tq. I also have just about evey bit of technical data on the LNF and regeared F35 for the HHR SS you could ever want. Just give the word and I'll post it up. I even have a little bit of info on a LNF stage 2 concept for the Solstice/Sky. However, I doubt that it will be released for the SS/TC's because of the F35.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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IDK, I looked them up on the internet...
but you never know about the sources for real
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