You might be surprised to find I agree with you. That's why it was meant as a joke (I even said I was kidding in my post...). I haven't seriously knocked either of them this whole thread, actually it's kinda nice to see two RSX owners who are actually cool. Most of the ones I see around me are punk-ass college students who think their bone-stock RSX they got for their 18th birthday is the fastest thing on four wheels.