score one for the ss/na's bitches!
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I don't know who dee dee dee or why that would be funny but I'll forward this post to Brian he is on here I am sure he will want to comment on his perceived lack of driving skills.
Let him comment away...after all.... it is a forum. Besides...no one is "perceiving" anything...if he was the one driving the SS/SC...I think his performance spoke for itself...unless of course he is going to go with the "gordita defense".
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I'll tell you what... when you have more than 13 posts... and when you mature past the level of a 5th grader... then come back and maybe you can comment on a situation that had nothing to do with you. Until then, keep your childish remarks and poor grammar to yourself.
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I'll tell you what... when you have more than 13 posts... and when you mature past the level of a 5th grader... then come back and maybe you can comment on a situation that had nothing to do with you. Until then, keep your childish remarks and poor grammar to yourself.
I know lucky..he's cool...he is only screwing with you guys....chill out on him.
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Don't sit there and tell me that he was "speaking his mind" in a manner that was consistent with what this forum is supposed to promote. Yes, it's a web forum... but even on web forums there's such a thing as etiquette.
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eeewwww,lack of car love in this forum
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like i have said before, this forum desperately needs more moderators. i have NEVER seen one and i have well over 1,000 posts....wtf is the deal? hell if they need me i'll mod, but i don't think that would go over too well with some people here, there are some good discussions that get a bit heated with still great material, but some of this **** is just stupid and lasts for MONTHS.
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Guys I was only pokin fun. No disrespect. I felt my comment was laughable. I understand how it was misconstreud, my apologies. And as I continue to be a member of this site because I LOVE MY CAR, you will all see I find humor in almost everything! My name is lucky because nothing could be further from the truth. LOL
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LOL plus she got a friggin money shot on her neck...BJ's FTW!!!!
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As far as "high performance"...YES the SS/SC is a high performance vehicle. If you don't believe it is then you should do some reading. Any car with more horsepower per liter than the new Z06...is high performance. Just because the base models are eco cars doesn't mean they can't have a "high performance" model...which is exactly what the SS/SC is...High performance.
The Honda Accord Hybrid makes more HP/l than the Z06 does that mean it is "high performence". I am sure there are a lot of cars that make more HP/l than the new Z06.
In reality the SS/SC is not a high performence vehicle just like the Accord Hybrid isn't. Now if you want to call the LSJ a high performence engine then your arguement would make more sense and I would have to agree.
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I pretty much agree with you about everything else except using this to justify the high performence aspects of the SS/SC.
The Honda Accord Hybrid makes more HP/l than the Z06 does that mean it is "high performence". I am sure there are a lot of cars that make more HP/l than the new Z06.
In reality the SS/SC is not a high performence vehicle just like the Accord Hybrid isn't. Now if you want to call the LSJ a high performence engine then your arguement would make more sense and I would have to agree.
The Honda Accord Hybrid makes more HP/l than the Z06 does that mean it is "high performence". I am sure there are a lot of cars that make more HP/l than the new Z06.
In reality the SS/SC is not a high performence vehicle just like the Accord Hybrid isn't. Now if you want to call the LSJ a high performence engine then your arguement would make more sense and I would have to agree.
so then what wold it take to make you believe that the entire COBALT SS S/C vehicle is a High performance vehicle?
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Low 14s does not = high performence. Is it a performence/sporty (not sports) car, without a doubt, but HIGH performence car??? It is not. And before you flame and get retarded, I do consider my STI a HIGH performence vehicle, but just barely it definently on the low end of HIGH performence vehicles.
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I guess this would all matter on opinion but that is mine.
I hope you agree that using the Z06's hp/l as a benchmark was not a good idea, especially when the Accord Hybrid has 84.3333hp/l compared to the Z06's 72.14hp/l and the ss/sc is 102.5hp/l at the rated specs.
My STI has 120hp/l actually 117.2hp/l now, EVO has 143hp/l, and for ***** and giggles the Bugatti Veyron makes 125.13hp/l.
I hope you agree that using the Z06's hp/l as a benchmark was not a good idea, especially when the Accord Hybrid has 84.3333hp/l compared to the Z06's 72.14hp/l and the ss/sc is 102.5hp/l at the rated specs.
My STI has 120hp/l actually 117.2hp/l now, EVO has 143hp/l, and for ***** and giggles the Bugatti Veyron makes 125.13hp/l.
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yeah i agree it wasnt a very good vehicle to use because like you said theres quite a few vehicles out there that make more power per Lieter. **** the LSJ and LNF are just a few of them. the K series engine in the type s acura ummm we could go on and on but theres no need for that. but to say that the SS S/C is not a high performance car is crazy IMHO now I believe you would be correct in saying that its not as a high performing car as an sti or an evo or SRT-4 in factory form.
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yeah i agree it wasnt a very good vehicle to use because like you said theres quite a few vehicles out there that make more power per Lieter. **** the LSJ and LNF are just a few of them. the K series engine in the type s acura ummm we could go on and on but theres no need for that. but to say that the SS S/C is not a high performance car is crazy IMHO now I believe you would be correct in saying that its not as a high performing car as an sti or an evo or SRT-4 in factory form.
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heres how i see it. thier base neon, cobalt and ion are superslow economy cars. I believe that any vehcile that has had power train, suspension,and even in some cases cosmetic work (if it increases performance) is to be considered a high performance vehicle now will it perform like an evo or STI in its factory "high performance state" well we both know that answer is no. but it dosent mean that thier not performance vehicles.
i found this on line i think it pretty much sums it up.
Typically describes a vehicle (generally a car) that has been designed with specific performance capabilities, above and beyond those of normal vehicles. Enhancements such as higher engine output (power), enhanced braking and suspension systems, are all hallmarks of high-performance vehicles. A high-performance vehicle generally exceeds the standards and capabilities of more common vehicles, for the purpose of enhancing the driving experience, or increasing the performance of the vehicle for competition. The trade off is usually cost, and maintainability: High performance vehicles typically cost significantly more than standard ones, and because of the more complex mechanical components, are generally regarded as requiring more maintenance and care. Lamborghini, Lotus and BMW are some examples of manufacturers of high performance vehicles. Arguably though, the two most recognised manufacturers of purpose built high performance cars are Ferrari and Porsche .Most manufacturers though carry at least one high-performance model in their lineup.
Although the term "High Performance" is largely subjective, and often a tool used by marketing departments of manufacturers, "high performance" cars generally accelerate to 100km/h (62mph) in under 6 seconds, and have a topspeed of around, or over 250km/h (155mph). Towards the higher end of the spectrum, a "supercar" is generally expected to accelerate to 100km/h in around or less than 4 seconds and have a top speed in excess of 300km/h.
Generally, high levels of power is associated with "high performance" vehicles but there are many differing philosophies amongst manufacturers. Many believe in outright power levels to propel the car to its performance potential, shown for example, by the Bently continental GT with 411KW of power, but a weight, vastly above average, of 2300kg. This can be contrasted with the Lotus Elise that has only 141KW but weighs only 886kg. Despite the different philosophies inplace to achieve "high performance" levels, both cars have very similar acceleration times.
i found this on line i think it pretty much sums it up.
Typically describes a vehicle (generally a car) that has been designed with specific performance capabilities, above and beyond those of normal vehicles. Enhancements such as higher engine output (power), enhanced braking and suspension systems, are all hallmarks of high-performance vehicles. A high-performance vehicle generally exceeds the standards and capabilities of more common vehicles, for the purpose of enhancing the driving experience, or increasing the performance of the vehicle for competition. The trade off is usually cost, and maintainability: High performance vehicles typically cost significantly more than standard ones, and because of the more complex mechanical components, are generally regarded as requiring more maintenance and care. Lamborghini, Lotus and BMW are some examples of manufacturers of high performance vehicles. Arguably though, the two most recognised manufacturers of purpose built high performance cars are Ferrari and Porsche .Most manufacturers though carry at least one high-performance model in their lineup.
Although the term "High Performance" is largely subjective, and often a tool used by marketing departments of manufacturers, "high performance" cars generally accelerate to 100km/h (62mph) in under 6 seconds, and have a topspeed of around, or over 250km/h (155mph). Towards the higher end of the spectrum, a "supercar" is generally expected to accelerate to 100km/h in around or less than 4 seconds and have a top speed in excess of 300km/h.
Generally, high levels of power is associated with "high performance" vehicles but there are many differing philosophies amongst manufacturers. Many believe in outright power levels to propel the car to its performance potential, shown for example, by the Bently continental GT with 411KW of power, but a weight, vastly above average, of 2300kg. This can be contrasted with the Lotus Elise that has only 141KW but weighs only 886kg. Despite the different philosophies inplace to achieve "high performance" levels, both cars have very similar acceleration times.
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heres how i see it. thier base neon, cobalt and ion are superslow economy cars. I believe that any vehcile that has had power train, suspension,and even in some cases cosmetic work (if it increases performance) is to be considered a high performance vehicle now will it perform like an evo or STI in its factory "high performance state" well we both know that answer is no. but it dosent mean that thier not performance vehicles.
i found this on line i think it pretty much sums it up.
Typically describes a vehicle (generally a car) that has been designed with specific performance capabilities, above and beyond those of normal vehicles. Enhancements such as higher engine output (power), enhanced braking and suspension systems, are all hallmarks of high-performance vehicles. A high-performance vehicle generally exceeds the standards and capabilities of more common vehicles, for the purpose of enhancing the driving experience, or increasing the performance of the vehicle for competition. The trade off is usually cost, and maintainability: High performance vehicles typically cost significantly more than standard ones, and because of the more complex mechanical components, are generally regarded as requiring more maintenance and care. Lamborghini, Lotus and BMW are some examples of manufacturers of high performance vehicles. Arguably though, the two most recognised manufacturers of purpose built high performance cars are Ferrari and Porsche .Most manufacturers though carry at least one high-performance model in their lineup.
Although the term "High Performance" is largely subjective, and often a tool used by marketing departments of manufacturers, "high performance" cars generally accelerate to 100km/h (62mph) in under 6 seconds, and have a topspeed of around, or over 250km/h (155mph). Towards the higher end of the spectrum, a "supercar" is generally expected to accelerate to 100km/h in around or less than 4 seconds and have a top speed in excess of 300km/h.
Generally, high levels of power is associated with "high performance" vehicles but there are many differing philosophies amongst manufacturers. Many believe in outright power levels to propel the car to its performance potential, shown for example, by the Bently continental GT with 411KW of power, but a weight, vastly above average, of 2300kg. This can be contrasted with the Lotus Elise that has only 141KW but weighs only 886kg. Despite the different philosophies inplace to achieve "high performance" levels, both cars have very similar acceleration times.
i found this on line i think it pretty much sums it up.
Typically describes a vehicle (generally a car) that has been designed with specific performance capabilities, above and beyond those of normal vehicles. Enhancements such as higher engine output (power), enhanced braking and suspension systems, are all hallmarks of high-performance vehicles. A high-performance vehicle generally exceeds the standards and capabilities of more common vehicles, for the purpose of enhancing the driving experience, or increasing the performance of the vehicle for competition. The trade off is usually cost, and maintainability: High performance vehicles typically cost significantly more than standard ones, and because of the more complex mechanical components, are generally regarded as requiring more maintenance and care. Lamborghini, Lotus and BMW are some examples of manufacturers of high performance vehicles. Arguably though, the two most recognised manufacturers of purpose built high performance cars are Ferrari and Porsche .Most manufacturers though carry at least one high-performance model in their lineup.
Although the term "High Performance" is largely subjective, and often a tool used by marketing departments of manufacturers, "high performance" cars generally accelerate to 100km/h (62mph) in under 6 seconds, and have a topspeed of around, or over 250km/h (155mph). Towards the higher end of the spectrum, a "supercar" is generally expected to accelerate to 100km/h in around or less than 4 seconds and have a top speed in excess of 300km/h.
Generally, high levels of power is associated with "high performance" vehicles but there are many differing philosophies amongst manufacturers. Many believe in outright power levels to propel the car to its performance potential, shown for example, by the Bently continental GT with 411KW of power, but a weight, vastly above average, of 2300kg. This can be contrasted with the Lotus Elise that has only 141KW but weighs only 886kg. Despite the different philosophies inplace to achieve "high performance" levels, both cars have very similar acceleration times.
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for people who don't know a little bit about GTP, well lets say he can drive our cars better than we can..lol
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