O rly? This Ls1 Z28 made a real big joke out of me and a Mach-1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sBrnBjRkF0

As for my times, those are bogus too.



Me too, I've learned that it's easier to just agree with the ignorance than try to educate. However, sometimes I have videos/slips readily available.

 

wow this thread is rediculous...and who said rwd is super easy to launch? not at all...most rwd cars have a little something called torque. especially a goat wtf!

wow....just wow. If you are gonna make fun of the gto being heavy, im gonna make fun of your car being plastic. fair? The gto still performs very well, even if it is heavy. And an ls2 goat a joke....hmmm. i love this forum, it's so non-bias.

 

Dude don't even bother, just throw them a thumbs up and send em' on their way

 

Its funny how when they ask you for proof, you show them, and then they don't post anymore.

As I stated to the OP, sounds like a good run against a stronger car. Anything can happen on the street.

To the owner of the Saturn, I used to own a Redline (probably before you even knew they existed) I know a few guys with superchargers bolted on to their "boat" that would probably make you look like you drive a Quad Coupe. You're coming across as a tool. ANYONE can dump money into a car and make it faster. Sure the guys with the Supercharged GTOs may be faster than a STOCK Corvette or a STOCK Porsche, but you'll never see them talking out their ass disrespectfully. Educate yourself before you show your ass.....Just some advice.

 

ya i shoulda also mentioned that GTO vs SS/SC video i posted is hatrickstu from on here. whoops!!!! u can PM him urself.

bottom line- ss/sc can be faster the GTO's as well as GTO's faster then ss/sc depending on mods and conditions.

 

Bottom line is for a SS/SC to even keep up with a well driven GTO it will need at least a stage whatever pcm, injectors, smaller pulley, much supporting mods, and bolt ons. I understand that anything can happen on the street, and on the track alot of newb drivers make GTO's look like ass. However, don't try to sell other cars short. A Cobalt is a 100mph trapper on its BEST day. GTO's trap 107-109 on average. Not to mention a Cobalt is a ~14.2 car on its BEST day, and GTO will average 13.1-13.3's. Basically what you're trying to compare is a car that runs a full second faster in the quarter and traps about 10mph higher.

But hey if you don't believe me, go race a guy who actually knows what he's doing and find out for yourself. As soon as you trade in your 2.2 Cobalt and find out how fast the SS's really are, rather than what you see and read on the internet and in magazines.

I'm used to it

edit: I just called my buddy with a s2 Cobalt SS/SC. He will not even race me for the sake of footage, he says and I quote him "I will get my doors blown off dude, why would you even ask me to race you know better than that"

 

I think the GTO is kind of a fugly car.

 

ok so a "stage" kit and then they can keep up. listen im not causing a battle here. but lets clarify EXACTLY what is BS and what is true here.

we both have our points of an SS/SC of being faster and then a GTO faster. IN THE VIDEO check out what the circumstances are.

-ss/sc stage 2
-gto stock

SPECS OF THE CAR

-ss/sc 241hp 2.0 5speed manual
-gto 350hp 5.7 4speed auto

the automatic is definetly slower and its a 5.7 as well. so dont start fronting on BS calling and how ur goat is no comparison better. that other video u showed was a 6.0 most likely had an exhaust and was a 6 speed. WAY DIFFERENT CONDITIONS. jump easy 50hp from other gto plus exhaust thats good for 15hp+

get a clue bud. uve made ur point and ive made mine and those "conditions" are exactly what makes a race a win or loss on either side.

lol its a grand prix on steriods with a sunfire back end

 

The video I posted was of my GTO, it's stock. That video was totally irrelivent to my response to you. Obviously you didn't get that.

Someone who Drives a car like this should not be allowed to comment on the looks of other vehicles.


I'm pretty sure your wing is on crooked. Also, nice stickers. Fine example of GM Performance.

 

Delta 2.2 =

 

haha this thread is gonna be locked in like 2 seconds so.....post count WHEW!!!

 

hey those pics are old. there are no GMPP performance parts stickers anymore FYI. and 2nd off, i may have a slow LS but doesnt mean i dont know about cars man.

and my post did have relevance to ur post. HENCE the statement of 5.7 vs 6.0 so again "condions"

and FYI the cobalts just my car. my rents got a 2002 trans am and my dads also got a 1977 trans am 6.6 big block so i think i know a thing or 2 about V8's as well as other car facts.

EDIT:

Slow SHO =

 

pathetic

 

lol i tried

but hey im not gonna bash anymore. it doesnt even concern me not like i have a ss/sc anywho.

bygons be bygons, that was a fun rant

 

wow. the GTO bashing in here is funny.

the GTO has nothing whatsoever to do with a grandprix or a sunfire other than the pontiac badge.
its a Holden monaro. (and i will personally rip off your head and **** down your neck if you bash my beloved General Motors Holden)

and why in the hell is a cobalt owner bashing an LS2 goat in the first place?!?


god this thread makes me ashamed.



welcome to the forum btw slow. nice lookin ride.

 

the grand prix was a big car and the GTO was just as big but had more power. hence grand prix on steriods.

if anything the front end of a bonnievill and the grand prix resembles the GTO





then the backend of a sunfire how the tailights looked





thats just in case u were wondering what i was talking about. but no im not bashing the GTO im just giving Slow SHO a hard time with this. the GTO is a sweet machine and i would buy one if i had the funds. but hey u gotta pay to play and i dont have the money to make it happen. im poor so kiss those dreams goodbye

 

I did some calculations awhile back and a stock ss/sc has more horse per pound then a 6.0 GTO... I forget how much though or wut the numbers were...

Anyways get em next time.

later

 

You should really re-take math in grades 1-4. You know, since wieght to power is the end all of bench racing you should at least be good at it

Just for reference though, a GTO has about 9 pounds for every 1 horsepower. While a SS/SC has about 12-13 pounds for every 1 horsepower.

 

w/e tho gto is a fast car and i respect it i also think its a nice looking car too and im not a big fan of pontiac.. ive raced one before and he had about 2 cars on me .. but im proud of what my 4 cylynder car can do

 

i cant believe how nasty the posting can get. lol. oh well.

 

Stock for stock a Cobalt SS/SC will NOT keep up or beat a GTO (LS1 OR LS2) with EQUAL drivers. The OP's story sounds plausible, however and the first video I saw seems questionable to me only because the GTO racing didn't even sound like it was WOT.

Anything can be made fast so why even argue about stock vs modded? You could have the quickest car in the world and I guarantee you that in a few months something will come along that's quicker. The Cobalt SS/SC is a respectable car but its hard to respect the owner of a car that thinks their car is the world beater to beat all makes and models. If you owned a McLaren or a Ferrari then your cockiness may be warranted, but owning a Cavalier errr I mean Cobalt, come on now.....

 

i raced a gto 6.0litre tonite from a dig and a roll....from a dig i lost by 2-3 cars the first time then the second time was 4cars and then from a roll at 40 they got me by 1 car and then after 110 they walked me and i let off......and my mods are in my sig

 

Let me say...the SS/SC Stage 2 could take an 04 GTO but not the 05+. The 05 GTO with the 400 V8 is as fast as my C5 Vette. I'm tellin' you there is no WAY the Balt can compete...I OWN both cars, I should know.

This is off topic, but do you guys know what Pontiac stands for?

 

MOTHERFUCKING!!!

 

delta 2,2 your ridiculous and you got pwned