^^Did you see the Cobalt Vs GTO vid? I think it's pretty much been established that GTO>Stage 2 Cobalt.

 

It's not cool to post your times and then see this in your sig:

"world's fastest recorded stock GTO"

Is that really fair? Also, were there people claiming that a stock SS/SC could beat a stock GTO. I sure hope not, because I'm sure most sane people on this forum would disagree with that. I'm sure somewhere, sometime, someone has gotten a 13 sec. pass in a stock Cobalt, but that's most likely a fluke and an extremely rare occurance.

No, he just hasn't seen the best in the world

 

well as far as recorded times, it is look on our forums

http://www.ls2gto.com

now if someone ran faster and didnt report it then ya

but far as the community is aware it is... well was (its no longer stock)

haha, thats true im not a fair comparison. Average 05-06 GTO driver usually gets a 13.4

but that would also say an average SS/SC runs a 14.5-14.7 and not 14.20s

 

Actually if you didn't notice only you and Ibeatcorvettes think your funny or right. Everyone else here simply looks past your posts since we all hate both of you.

So why don't you head on back to where you really belong mustangforums.com where the rest of the un-educated Mustang fanboys hang out.

 

I'll take a look into. Thanks for the info!

 

Pontiac has the 05-06 GTO braking 60-0 in 109ft. They use a very similar setup from the previous C5.

R&T has it with horrible times in the 120s. R/T also has the SS/SC Cobalt in the 140's.

So we know how accurate that is lol

 

Hey Phantom, congrats on those numbers. Where did you run that at and what time of year? Any stock dyno numbers? My 06 has the highest stock dyno I have seen (359/366). I am waiting to head to Ennis to run my car in the fall when the weather cools. I want to run around your time (all I have now are mufflers and a drop in K&N). Anytips for me launching? That was using a lift shift technique right? Not a power shift? All my buddies know I can row some gears, I probably just need to brush up on the launching. Way to show the world our goats are fast cars stock, so many seem to dismiss us down to a mid thirteen and out of reach of the 03-04 cobras. Stock for stock I say drivers race (as the numbers show). Anyways, congrats! Tyler

 

were you numbers STD or SAE?

Mine were 353/360 SAE

Ran at Pittsburgh Raceway Park, at the end of May 2007.

Front Tire Pressure was 40psi
Rears were 22psi
Stock Bridgestone Potenza 235/40/18

Did a quick small clutch dump after the water box, did not ride it out, did not heat the tires, its worthless and results in worse times for street tires

Staged at 3200 rpm, and slipped out the clutch and gave half throttle for the first 10ft
Once it grabbed I went for it, full throttle

1>2 Shift I shifted at 6100-6200 rpm, no power shift
2>3 6500 rpm power shift
3>4 6500pm power shift

 

That should read *World's Fastest Documented Stock GTO*

Reported isn't quite right, it sounds like you reported to some one or some entity. The documented is better because it is recorded and supportable when stating your claim...imo.

 

I agree, a link would be nice. That's better stopping power than the $160K Ford GT that went 60-0 in 110 ft. and weighs 400 lbs. less than the Goat. Not to mention that the GTO only has 11.7" rotors (only 1/10th of an inch bigger than the SS/SC's 11.6" rotors ) and the GT has 14" rotors. I don't think so.

I wasn't saying that I didn't believe that you actually did have the fastest recorded stock GTO, I was just saying that it isn't fair to use your time as an argument for how fast GTO's are, because 19 times out of 20, we are going to run into the average driver, not Michael Schumaker.

 

the GTO has 12.8" Rotors on 05-06, where pontiac maybe exaggerating a bit, the 05-06 gto out handles and out brakes the ss/sc

quit lookin at 04 numbers

state your source, i stated mine

and then fine, average GTO drive runs mid 13s

just like average cobalt ss/sc runs high 14s

cant have it both ways, but ill be quite honest with you, youre tough to believe since you cant even state your facts properly.

Youre quotting performance numbers from an 04 with smaller brakes, lesser suspension and 50hp less.

How about i quote NA SS performance? thats would really make the Cobalt look bad

 

Its actually 128 feet from 0-60. This is with the 17s I believe. Not sure if the 18s will yield much better results.



GTO Online Brochure

 

I checked 4 different sources for each

they list the 05-06 GTO anywhere from 116-130
the SS/SC Cobalt from 117-144

both are pretty kick ass cars, but just know where you stand in performance. I cant beat corvettes stock for stock, and cobalts dont beat gtos stock for stock either
(assuming equal driving)

 

Here's the source. A link, not just saying "Pontiac said so"

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...pes_comparison

Looks like an '05 to me


That is not true.

I addressed this above. Giving sources requires a little more than just stating you saw it in a magazine. That's why I asked for a LINK, not a source.

I thought we were talking about braking. I didn't know an extra 50 hp made your car stop


faster?!?!?


p.s. Could you please not put a blank line between every sentence you post, it's kind of


annoying.

 

I was quotting 1/4mi and braking you really dont follow along very well do you. Two different categories.

If we're going by motortrend then your car runs 14.5's all day long.

GM High Tech/Motorend was running 13.20s/13.30s in 05 GTOs. Like I said, im not shitting on your cobalts, but I said it once and ill say it again. A SS/SC Cobalt WILL NEVER beat a GTO in a drag race assuming equal driving

Also the motortrend article is quoting the incorrect brake size. We run a 12.6 not an 11.7

 

The bold numbers are quite interesting.

I agree 100%. I just thought the braking distances you posted were bogus, that's all. And I think you realized you were wrong after you saw the REAL source posted by TXRLU, and that's why you edited your post.

 

no i editted my post, because i found so much variation between 4 different sources

 

Edit: My apology to phantom for mis-reading his post.

 

If you can find the post in this thread where someone stated that a stock SS/SC will beat a stock GTO on the drag strip, please show me, because I cannot find it. I seem to recall you jumping in the thread the minute someone brought up the handling qualities of the SS/SC vs. the GTO. Your first post of the thread was to inform all of us inferior 4-banger owners of your world record holding GTO 1/4 mile time. We know they are fast, that's why people are so excited when they can even hang with one. You don't need to convince me that they're great cars, just don't over exaggerate about them.

 

Right about what? You being full of it, no I think alot of people think like me. We all, do you mean you hate me on here and thats just because I call you out on all you BS posts and you cant get away with your lies any more.

 

Im gonna start bagging this thread and selling it for garden fertilizer.

 

No offense, but when I saw your post I started thinking of that stupid fox show..........."ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER"

So have we at least come to a conclusion? Stock Corvette> Stock GTO> Stock Cobalt SS/SC Lets not start pulling that ricer **** either, "Oh well your car may be faster, but I save $25 on every fill-up because I have a Hybrid, runs on fuel and hamster power!" And its not even an argument to compare stock cars to modified cars. That's like comparing dating a hot chick to dating a plain chick. The hot chick is going to cost more to maintain and you are always going to wonder when she's gonna blow on you......

 

Well, it goes to show I'm not smarter than fifth grader because I totally mis-read his post. :doh:

Another argument to him is he CAN beat some Vettes with his awesome numbers with stock GTO.

 

Why does it seem like magazines haven't caught on to the fact the 05-06 GTO uses different size rotors? Hell they only notice the calipers are different because there red.

And even if the GTO took 128ft to bleed off 60mph thats still damn good for a 3700lb car, although most real tests yield around 120-121ft 60-0. And the 18" wheel tire combo is pathetic so I am pretty sure they would only hinder the results rather than help.

 

c5's and what not are a good race, but ya I was comparing current model years.

base C6 would rip me a new one, equal driving, and I used to own an 03 Z06, I ran a 12.04 showroom stock, i know theyre beastly

cobalt ss/sc isnt an inferior car... hell i dont even think theyre a bad car, or whatnot. I'm on this board for a reason, im around the ss/sc a lot, know tons of people with em. I'm just making a statement in regards to the goat vs the cobalt