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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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That or you have one hell of a tune. Not to **** anyone off but stock vs stock it is easy to put 6-7 cars on a EVO or STi from a roll.

I love my gearing I shift into 4th at 110mph
gotta remember how much power can be had with those mods on the evo's. he's probably putting down 40+whp more than he was stock.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Thats why I didn't say he was full of ****.

I have had modded EVO's spank me in my GTO before, they do still run out of gear though. I raced one way to far once and at 130mph I flew by like he dropped an anchor.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Thats why I didn't say he was full of ****.

I have had modded EVO's spank me in my GTO before, they do still run out of gear though. I raced one way to far once and at 130mph I flew by like he dropped an anchor.
No one accused you of saying he was full of ****. Was that really neccessary?

Or he let off? Seriously if up until 130 he was still ahead what does he have to gain by racing any further? Just saying that could be a possibility.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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He wanted to see where his car stopped pulling so I showed him.

Otherwise I don't race that fast, 99% of the time there is a definate winner by 90mph.

With the exception of over turboed dyno queens.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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With the exception of over turboed dyno queens.
haha...well my supra has 900whp (thats only usable once we get to 110mph)...

I hate those guys as well.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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lol.

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Hey slo...serious question.

How do you like your GTO in the corners? Does it handle well?
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Hey slo...serious question.

How do you like your GTO in the corners? Does it handle well?
Handles alot better than what you'd expect from a 3700lb car. Although I'm more of a straight line driver.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Nice, but I suppose with independent rear suspension it should be alright. Braking and such?
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Heres what I think

Braking is absolutly awesome with the 05-06 GTO, it easily matches a SS/SC and Solstice GXP.

As for handling I have had better and worse also. I would say the GTO handles like my 2002 Camaro SS but not as good as my 2000 Camaro SS with the SLP/Bilstein suspension option. The alignment is key though a car that was aligned to positive camber by dealers hoping to avoid strut rub handle like ass. My GTO was at +.25 camber and I took it down to -.25 and it made a load of difference.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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People are still listening to CODY BS?
Oh yea CODY.......where are your time slips or videos?
Or just give us another lame a$$ excuse.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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People are still listening to CODY BS?
Oh yea CODY.......where are your time slips or videos?
Or just give us another lame a$$ excuse.
I love it, the name continues.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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What the hell is BS you dumb ********?

Ibeatcorvettes you don't beat corvettes or GTO's so get over it, if you do prove it.

and

04YellowGT take your stupid and stick it up your ass.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Corvettes are slow POS.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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I know, remember I drive the fastest car on earth.

I just hope Ibeatcorvettes and 04YellowGT grow up and realize there stupid **** isn't needed.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Braking is absolutly awesome with the 05-06 GTO, it easily matches a SS/SC and Solstice GXP.
After reading up on them...I wouldn't say "easily" thats for sure. It may FEEL like it, but from everything I saw the cobalt out brakes the GTO by a good 10ft from 60-0 (which is a good difference) and a whole lot more than that from 100-0.

124ft 60-0 for the GTO and 114FT from 60-0 in the cobalt. Not what I would call easily matching...but pretty impressive for a 3800 lb car none the less.

Thanks for the info.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Just was reading up on the E55 AMG's and there was a test article that had this comment in it, relating why a car with 469 HP is moving 2 ton plus four door automatic car deep into the 12's. It has to do with the abundence of torque that it makes.

"Here's a little gearhead dish: While peak horsepower has a certain marquee value, it's not especially relevant outside of top speed. Acceleration -- the sensual, guilty, giddy gestalt of tramping the gas pedal and feeling yourself shoved into the fast-forward scenery -- is the product of engine torque pitted against the mass of a car."

Just thought this would be a little more fuel to the fire on why torque is important when moving mass. Tyler
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by amxguy1970
Just was reading up on the E55 AMG's and there was a test article that had this comment in it, relating why a car with 469 HP is moving 2 ton plus four door automatic car deep into the 12's. It has to do with the abundence of torque that it makes.

"Here's a little gearhead dish: While peak horsepower has a certain marquee value, it's not especially relevant outside of top speed. Acceleration -- the sensual, guilty, giddy gestalt of tramping the gas pedal and feeling yourself shoved into the fast-forward scenery -- is the product of engine torque pitted against the mass of a car."

Just thought this would be a little more fuel to the fire on why torque is important when moving mass. Tyler
yea....that's why the cl65amg is the most rediculous stock car ever. Heavy as ***** and supre comfy, but fast as ****!
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by amxguy1970
Just was reading up on the E55 AMG's and there was a test article that had this comment in it, relating why a car with 469 HP is moving 2 ton plus four door automatic car deep into the 12's. It has to do with the abundence of torque that it makes.

"Here's a little gearhead dish: While peak horsepower has a certain marquee value, it's not especially relevant outside of top speed. Acceleration -- the sensual, guilty, giddy gestalt of tramping the gas pedal and feeling yourself shoved into the fast-forward scenery -- is the product of engine torque pitted against the mass of a car."

Just thought this would be a little more fuel to the fire on why torque is important when moving mass. Tyler
But you could have an engine in that car that makes 200 ft/lbs less and be just as fast.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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the ls2 is an AMERICAN engine, you know, from the corvette? holden may have designed it, but american muscle is what gives it the muscle.

with an AMERICAN motor which gives it the muscle?

the GTO isnt a muscle car. a muscle car is sticking a huge powerful motor in a 2 door midsize economy car, along with economy handling, enonomy brakes and just slightly over economy car price.




mmmmmm some more quotes from another forum about the GTO.
God some people are ****** lame.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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I don't care if the car was Japanese. I like it, and am stumped as to how these didn't sell like hotcakes. Oh well, just makes mine all the more special
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I don't care if the car was Japanese. I like it, and am stumped as to how these didn't sell like hotcakes. Oh well, just makes mine all the more special
General Motors customer service and bad stealerships.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
What the hell is BS you dumb ********?

Ibeatcorvettes you don't beat corvettes or GTO's so get over it, if you do prove it.

and

04YellowGT take your stupid and stick it up your ass.
You dont know what BS is? If you really don't know its Bull ****, which is all that comes out of your mouth.

The funny thing is alot of people on this site must agree with me because quite a few call you that now so...

Tell you what, why dont you show me and everyone else on this site some proof of your claims and Ill drop it, untill that time Ill continue to call you CodyBS and Im sure everyone else will too.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Handles alot better than what you'd expect from a 3700lb car. Although I'm more of a straight line driver.
I have to admit that my LSJ powered saturn felt a little more stout. I think GM engineers (if there's such a thing ) figured they had to make the GTO's suspension a little more compliant for the target audience (older crowd/baby boomers) I get more body roll than I did with the Saturn, kinda sad that a Saturn felt more rigid in the corners than a Pontiac. The GTO does track well, but I'm just not real comfortable with the lean I get even though many magazine articles claim that the lean is no indication that the GTO is nearing the limits of adhesion.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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I went 12.81 @ 108.2 bone stock... so hmm

Originally Posted by FNFAST
After reading up on them...I wouldn't say "easily" thats for sure. It may FEEL like it, but from everything I saw the cobalt out brakes the GTO by a good 10ft from 60-0 (which is a good difference) and a whole lot more than that from 100-0.

124ft 60-0 for the GTO and 114FT from 60-0 in the cobalt. Not what I would call easily matching...but pretty impressive for a 3800 lb car none the less.

Thanks for the info.
those are 04 GTO braking #'s. the 05-06 have bigger brakes

Originally Posted by jekqmb
Ummm whoa this coming from someone who drives a v6 mustang, haha, my car might be plastic, but it would make your car look like a joke. And yes LS2 GTO's are a joke. 400hp=about 365whp...Ive never seen one where i live run better then a 13.6@107 never ever.
i ran a 12.8 stock

you seen shitty drivers

stock for stock, driver for driver

the LS1 and LS2 GTO will defeat an SS/SC Cobalt every time

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