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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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SS/SC GM Stage 2 ONLY vs 2008 SS/TC

I just had my first encounter with an LNF Cobalt rolling out of my best friends house. I took a left turn and notice a cobalt riding my bumper. I pull over and it's a TC! I ask him if he wanted to run and he said yeah so we headed to the highway.


We ran about ten times or so from various speeds.

Most of our hits were at 40-45 MPH. I'd get nice instant throttle response that grabbed me about a fender every time. I'd hold it and gradually pull a HAIR more... literally inches.
Same result time and time again.

40 Roll= Dead even, fender jump to SC Stage 2.

We did a hit at 60 MPH and HE ANNIHILATED me. Both in third gear I assume. He yanked two carlengths INSTANTLY and I couldn't pull it back. Hung two carlengths ahead all the way.

60 Roll= TC ANNIHILATES. SWEET spot for the TC 3rd gear.

We also did a top end run from 80 MPH in third gear. I yanked a few inches ahead and afterwards he pulled slightly right around my 6500 RPM range. I shifted into fourth and we had to shut down. He seemed to start to edge me out up top.

80 Roll= Slight jump for SC Stage 2, TC seemed to pull a little bit harder towards the top end.


Afterwards we pulled over and exchanged numbers. Exciting stuff..

The ONLY modifications to my car are Eibach Sportlines and GM Stage 2. No intake, no exhaust. Nada, just the Stage kit.


All in all I was impressed. I can imagine these things are beastly once tuned.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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Nice. I can't wait to slaughter my first one.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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^ God damn thats alot of gauges ^
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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That's cause with volumetic efficency T/C>S/C>N/A. As volumetric efficency increases power jumps through the roof.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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race me USMC... id be honored to be the first t/c you slaughter
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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I cannot wait for an LNF to try me, they have no idea what they are in for HAHA
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Nice results

I love my car but im debating trading it in a year or 2

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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
race me USMC... id be honored to be the first t/c you slaughter
There is one in town that I've been hunting, cocky bastard...


...and you are too far away. Unless you wanna make the trip.


There is a big meet here on Saturday. Lots of cars for us to beat up on. I'll make it worth the trip.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Nice runs.

Should have done the the 60 roll in 2nd gear. Stage 2 cars can do 75mph in 2nd gear.

You have to use your rpm & gearing advantage, otherwise the LNF torque will be impossible to beat.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
I cannot wait for an LNF to try me, they have no idea what they are in for HAHA
And you would have no idea what you would be in for ...
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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^^ true... from a dig i say t/c wins(with a wicked tune).... roll yea the harrop would win they trap around 110

all matters in the tune.... and im talking about on STOCK tires not gay ass radials

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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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good runs. than i should be ok. no 2.9?
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltssTH
good runs. than i should be ok. no 2.9?
You'd pull a bone stock TC, I'm sure of it.


As for using my gearing advantage, I'm aware that I'd have faired a bit better if I hit in 2nd gear but honestly he still would have pulled me. I didn't want to go through the trouble, I don't prefer to rev that high for any length of time or to have to shift that quickly... I'll do another 60 in 2nd.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sergio
Nice runs.

Should have done the the 60 roll in 2nd gear. Stage 2 cars can do 75mph in 2nd gear.

You have to use your rpm & gearing advantage, otherwise the LNF torque will be impossible to beat.
75??? i hve never once got my stage 2 over 65, except fro when i push in the clutch to shift and it coasts up on the speedo a little... but nowhere near 75
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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75??? i hve never once got my stage 2 over 65, except fro when i push in the clutch to shift and it coasts up on the speedo a little... but nowhere near 75
Is your RPM limiter 7000? You should be able to visually tap 75 on the speedo. In reality it's more like 73 MPH in my experience but regardless...

2nd gear after stage two is certainly capable of more than 65 mph.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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2nd gear in non staged ss/sc is about 60-65? Possibly no stage 2 tune?
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
I cannot wait for an LNF to try me, they have no idea what they are in for HAHA

nice, it takes a somehwat to heavily modded ss/sc to beat a stock ss/tc

Originally Posted by Sarvoth
I just had my first encounter with an LNF Cobalt rolling out of my best friends house. I took a left turn and notice a cobalt riding my bumper. I pull over and it's a TC! I ask him if he wanted to run and he said yeah so we headed to the highway.


We ran about ten times or so from various speeds.

Most of our hits were at 40-45 MPH. I'd get nice instant throttle response that grabbed me about a fender every time. I'd hold it and gradually pull a HAIR more... literally inches.
Same result time and time again.

40 Roll= Dead even, fender jump to SC Stage 2.

We did a hit at 60 MPH and HE ANNIHILATED me. Both in third gear I assume. He yanked two carlengths INSTANTLY and I couldn't pull it back. Hung two carlengths ahead all the way.

60 Roll= TC ANNIHILATES. SWEET spot for the TC 3rd gear.

We also did a top end run from 80 MPH in third gear. I yanked a few inches ahead and afterwards he pulled slightly right around my 6500 RPM range. I shifted into fourth and we had to shut down. He seemed to start to edge me out up top.

80 Roll= Slight jump for SC Stage 2, TC seemed to pull a little bit harder towards the top end.


Afterwards we pulled over and exchanged numbers. Exciting stuff..

The ONLY modifications to my car are Eibach Sportlines and GM Stage 2. No intake, no exhaust. Nada, just the Stage kit.


All in all I was impressed. I can imagine these things are beastly once tuned.

about time.

now its settled.

no more arguments about how stage 2 and stock ss/tc will do

proof is here. it takes a stage 2 to keep up with or barely beat a ss/tc

any questions? comments? complaints?

dial 1 to complain, 2 for comments, 3 for questions, and 4 for stupid noobs who will argue
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
There is one in town that I've been hunting, cocky bastard...


...and you are too far away. Unless you wanna make the trip.


There is a big meet here on Saturday. Lots of cars for us to beat up on. I'll make it worth the trip.

lolz

big meet.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Lulz... you love the Big Meet!
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by M1kl0

proof is here. it takes a stage 2 to keep up with or barely beat a ss/tc or barely lose to an ss/tc.
fixed
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mezzanno
fixed
SPANK YOU HELPY HELPERTON! XP
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rocco11189
2nd gear in non staged ss/sc is about 60-65? Possibly no stage 2 tune?
nah, i know i got the stage 2, ill wind it out nd look closely, but i dont ever rember gettin it pst 70mph, then again, i dont like revvinmg it that high
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by seekNdestroy
nah, i know i got the stage 2, ill wind it out nd look closely, but i dont ever rember gettin it pst 70mph, then again, i dont like revvinmg it that high
Don't be a Puss. I've revved mine to 7k just about everyday for the last 2 years without a single motor problem.

And just because the dealership INSTALLED your Stg2... doesn't mean that they Flashed the tune onto it. I have heard many many many stories of Dealerships forgetting to flash the tune onto the car.

If your car doesn't rev to 7k... then you got jipped.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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Just had too!
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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ive got a question how does a ss/sc with a hahn turbo swap stack up to a ss/tc
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