SS/TC vs. 2010 camaro ss
It's not detuned, it is a different motor. L99 vs. Ls3. L99 has VVT and a few other features. It makes more miderange too so if both had the same tranny, chances are the L99assuming it wasnt killed with torque management, would be the LS3. Tune only L99s are running 12.6s.
Yeah supposedly the L99 reacts better to mods too. and "only 400hp" lol I am only 324 to the wheels.
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That's an excellent price. Milan charges $25 and you're lucky to get 5 runs in max, plus it's almost a 2 hour drive for me. I'll PM ya once we get closer to spring and we'll try to find a day to go. Maybe we can get a nice size group of Balts.
I like my car, I had a C5 vette, (A friend wrecked it recently and his insurance covered it.) I am about to deploy so a new RWD toy will be waiting on me when I get back. This time though I think I am going the 4DR route, either a G8 GXP or a used CTS-V. I like my SS/TC for what it is, so I don't see it going away any time soon.
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haha me and my friend ran one of those in his ss/tc lol he was granny shiftin and just cruzin on haha and the guy said that was his slow mustang lol old guy and his wife lol
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with a TUNE ONLY they are about 395whp... i'm sure the L99 takes well to mods, but the LS series V8(ls1,ls2, ls6, ls7, ls3, ls9), well, that series and the modular 4.6 from Ford pretty much lead the way in aftermarket support AND potential
i'm going to call b.s. on that... you obviously haven't seen a modded LS3
with a TUNE ONLY they are about 395whp... i'm sure the L99 takes well to mods, but the LS series V8(ls1,ls2, ls6, ls7, ls3, ls9), well, that series and the modular 4.6 from Ford pretty much lead the way in aftermarket support AND potential
with a TUNE ONLY they are about 395whp... i'm sure the L99 takes well to mods, but the LS series V8(ls1,ls2, ls6, ls7, ls3, ls9), well, that series and the modular 4.6 from Ford pretty much lead the way in aftermarket support AND potential
Its common knowledge that the auto's are faster at the track than the LS3's.
Yeah I wouldn't know anything about any LSx motor, considering I have owned an LS2, LS6, and LS1 Car. The LS3 is worlds different than all mentioned..... (sarcasm.)
The LS3 is just as big of a leap as the vette had when it went from the LS1 (350HP to the 400HP LS2) It makes more power, but its all in the same places. Nothing negative about that at all, but its no mystery to me. Elevation kills N/A cars too, its why I won't own a N/A V8 around here. And the L99 is closer to the LS3 than you may think... It just has more "features" "The L99 is derived from the LS3 with reduced output but adds Active Fuel Management (formerly called Displacement on Demand), which allows it to run on only four cylinders during light load conditions." Straight from Wiki
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i'm going to call b.s. on that... you obviously haven't seen a modded LS3
with a TUNE ONLY they are about 395whp... i'm sure the L99 takes well to mods, but the LS series V8(ls1,ls2, ls6, ls7, ls3, ls9), well, that series and the modular 4.6 from Ford pretty much lead the way in aftermarket support AND potential
with a TUNE ONLY they are about 395whp... i'm sure the L99 takes well to mods, but the LS series V8(ls1,ls2, ls6, ls7, ls3, ls9), well, that series and the modular 4.6 from Ford pretty much lead the way in aftermarket support AND potential
When i was getting my dads C6 tuned (im 35 btw not a kid) .... Mike from new era performcance was on the phone with his "GM" guy trying to figure out the automatic in the new Camaro SS .
This was back in July and he was saying there is around a half second of ET hiding in the tranny tuning ..... he was pulling his hair out with all the different parameters in the new tranny.
This was back in July and he was saying there is around a half second of ET hiding in the tranny tuning ..... he was pulling his hair out with all the different parameters in the new tranny.
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When i was getting my dads C6 tuned (im 35 btw not a kid) .... Mike from new era performcance was on the phone with his "GM" guy trying to figure out the automatic in the new Camaro SS .
This was back in July and he was saying there is around a half second of ET hiding in the tranny tuning ..... he was pulling his hair out with all the different parameters in the new tranny.
This was back in July and he was saying there is around a half second of ET hiding in the tranny tuning ..... he was pulling his hair out with all the different parameters in the new tranny.
Here you go, 13.38 to 12.8 withing 20 minutes.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-c...-tuned-a6.html
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the LS3 reacts very well to mods. You obviously have not drag raced an automatic before...
Yes they do take very well to mods, cam only getting 500 rwhp!
Its common knowledge that the auto's are faster at the track than the LS3's.
True once you get to a point. I have always been told by guys who drag raced their whole lives that once you get into the mid 11's is when you will see the auto over take the manual in terms of times. Around that point it is able to over come the less wheel hp, more drive train loss and more drag. Now granted there are plenty of other things that make up the differences. IE a 6spd manual compared to a 4spd auto. Auto's that are tuned and stalled, autos with 6+ gears, rear end gearing ect ect... But yes in the end when drag racing autos are king, not to mention consistant!
Yeah I wouldn't know anything about any LSx motor, considering I have owned an LS2, LS6, and LS1 Car. The LS3 is worlds different than all mentioned..... (sarcasm.)
I under stand your sarcasm but there is alot more different there then your sarcasim is trying to get at. It is more then just a new head with revised cam and computer specs..
The LS3 is just as big of a leap as the vette had when it went from the LS1 (350HP to the 400HP LS2) It makes more power, but its all in the same places. Nothing negative about that at all, but its no mystery to me. Elevation kills N/A cars too, its why I won't own a N/A V8 around here. And the L99 is closer to the LS3 than you may think... It just has more "features" "The L99 is derived from the LS3 with reduced output but adds Active Fuel Management (formerly called Displacement on Demand), which allows it to run on only four cylinders during light load conditions." Straight from Wiki
Yes they do take very well to mods, cam only getting 500 rwhp!
Its common knowledge that the auto's are faster at the track than the LS3's.
True once you get to a point. I have always been told by guys who drag raced their whole lives that once you get into the mid 11's is when you will see the auto over take the manual in terms of times. Around that point it is able to over come the less wheel hp, more drive train loss and more drag. Now granted there are plenty of other things that make up the differences. IE a 6spd manual compared to a 4spd auto. Auto's that are tuned and stalled, autos with 6+ gears, rear end gearing ect ect... But yes in the end when drag racing autos are king, not to mention consistant!
Yeah I wouldn't know anything about any LSx motor, considering I have owned an LS2, LS6, and LS1 Car. The LS3 is worlds different than all mentioned..... (sarcasm.)
I under stand your sarcasm but there is alot more different there then your sarcasim is trying to get at. It is more then just a new head with revised cam and computer specs..
The LS3 is just as big of a leap as the vette had when it went from the LS1 (350HP to the 400HP LS2) It makes more power, but its all in the same places. Nothing negative about that at all, but its no mystery to me. Elevation kills N/A cars too, its why I won't own a N/A V8 around here. And the L99 is closer to the LS3 than you may think... It just has more "features" "The L99 is derived from the LS3 with reduced output but adds Active Fuel Management (formerly called Displacement on Demand), which allows it to run on only four cylinders during light load conditions." Straight from Wiki
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I know more about LSx motors than I put on. I usually just keep to myself about it because this is the Cobalt SS forums. I am trying to learn a bit more about the LNF motors and DI right now. LSx motors have much less science to make fast. (Not to mention an easier platform to get them into controllable high WHP Apps.)
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In my case I used a source that was verifiable by wiki (So yeah a for once credible one.)
I know more about LSx motors than I put on. I usually just keep to myself about it because this is the Cobalt SS forums. I am trying to learn a bit more about the LNF motors and DI right now. LSx motors have much less science to make fast. (Not to mention an easier platform to get them into controllable high WHP Apps.)
I know more about LSx motors than I put on. I usually just keep to myself about it because this is the Cobalt SS forums. I am trying to learn a bit more about the LNF motors and DI right now. LSx motors have much less science to make fast. (Not to mention an easier platform to get them into controllable high WHP Apps.)
I have been dealing with them since 00 in my street racing days, hence the reason I am a huge fan it is such a great simple motor (I have seen 28 mpg out of a heavier sports coupe that can run 12's). 50's technology still stomping the ever loving crap out of these modern DOHC/turbo/DI/ect engines, gotta love it! I still follow others that interest me like the Cobra's, SRT's and some of the american economy cars (gotta know what they are capable of because they can surprise!).
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