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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Deff looked pretty slow for what it is.
just put it this way an s252 turbo lsj on 23psi can put down 400whp maybe alittle higher depending on the tune. so i dont see how this srt is loosing so bad to a 330whp cobalt when the srt has just as much potential and as the op stated he has all the supporting mods for the upgraded turbo.even worse when i believe srt's are lighter than us cobalts. again i dont mean to bash the balt just stating what seems to be more realistic about this race
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
just put it this way an s252 turbo lsj on 23psi can put down 400whp maybe alittle higher depending on the tune. so i dont see how this srt is loosing so bad to a 330whp cobalt when the srt has just as much potential and as the op stated he has all the supporting mods for the upgraded turbo.even worse when i believe srt's are lighter than us cobalts. again i dont mean to bash the balt just stating what seems to be more realistic about this race
its a 375 hp car, its a bigger turbo which takes a little while to spool, when i instantly have 400 ft pounds of tq, which he isnt. My dyno graph shows im making it at 3250 rpms. Thats how/why i walked him so bad. SRT's weigh about the same as cobalts.
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Yeah, after watching a few more times, looking at the boost gauge and the RPMs and such. I conclude your friend is just dumb. By the time his turbo actually spools to 23psi, you're already 2 cars out on him. He needs to not do 3rd gear rolls at 55mph, and learn to brakeboost. Lastly, did you start in 2nd gear for that or 3rd? Just curious.
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Lag, all it takes is to brake boost from a roll. Quick look up it seems likie the S252 is a 43-lbs min turbo. I had a Delta 44 which is a 44 lb min (.48) and I had full boost at 3200 rpm. On 22-23 psi I was trapping 94mph in the 1/8..... A 330whp SS/TC isn't hitting that.

Srt's weight about 100lbs less stock.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Zenkat
Yeah, after watching a few more times, looking at the boost gauge and the RPMs and such. I conclude your friend is just dumb. By the time his turbo actually spools to 23psi, you're already 2 cars out on him. He needs to not do 3rd gear rolls at 55mph, and learn to brakeboost. Lastly, did you start in 2nd gear for that or 3rd? Just curious.
i noticed it take forever to spool up too...didnt really think about it til you mentioned him bein in 3rd gear.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
not to bash on the cobalt because its a good kill. but i think that srt should had given more of a fight if not beat you. ive seen stock srts rev alot faster and run faster than that. even with an s252 which still isnt too laggy it should had gotten you up top. idk thats just me and my opinion. other than that good run
hey guys, to clarify the turbo is a s256 and chase's car is running like a rape ape. sorry about the video i took it from my phone for my buddy in the SRT. Poor SRT took forever to spool because his RPMs were a little low for the race

Originally Posted by Chase0224
that guy is a really good friend of mine, trust me he was going all out for me. This isnt the first time weve ran with his big turbo setup. The thing moves out. Yeah i hit peak tq at 400 ft pounds at 3250 rpms, im moving the **** out on everybody.

Bika pwease dont blow up my black car, i really like this one
Dont worry, new owner will get it running better since now this car has been sold back to someone else



Originally Posted by jonathan923
just put it this way an s252 turbo lsj on 23psi can put down 400whp maybe alittle higher depending on the tune. so i dont see how this srt is loosing so bad to a 330whp cobalt when the srt has just as much potential and as the op stated he has all the supporting mods for the upgraded turbo.even worse when i believe srt's are lighter than us cobalts. again i dont mean to bash the balt just stating what seems to be more realistic about this race
i had an extremely similar set up on this same SRT before and it ran a lot stronger than it does now. Im hoping that I can get this SRT back to where it should be for maybe another run for fun
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
hey guys, to clarify the turbo is a s256 and chase's car is running like a rape ape. sorry about the video i took it from my phone for my buddy in the SRT. Poor SRT took forever to spool because his RPMs were a little low for the race



Dont worry, new owner will get it running better since now this car has been sold back to someone else





i had an extremely similar set up on this same SRT before and it ran a lot stronger than it does now. Im hoping that I can get this SRT back to where it should be for maybe another run for fun
Oh hai thar!
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
Oh hai thar!
haha thats all i get? geesh
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
haha thats all i get? geesh
Love you
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
hey guys, to clarify the turbo is a s256 and chase's car is running like a rape ape. sorry about the video i took it from my phone for my buddy in the SRT. Poor SRT took forever to spool because his RPMs were a little low for the race
That's still not that big of a turbo, if his "rpms were low" he was deff in the wrong gear as those see full boost at like 3.5K.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Does the SRT have a stock boost gauge or 30/30?
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
That's still not that big of a turbo, if his "rpms were low" he was deff in the wrong gear as those see full boost at like 3.5K.

It's a good sized turbo for stock motor. These generally do not see spool that fast sir. More 3800ish. . He was not in wrong gear, 2nd gear his rpms would have been too high. He needed to break boost but this was just a fun run with 2 close friends.
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Does the SRT have a stock boost gauge or 30/30?
I just installed a 30/30 for the owner of the srt
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
These generally do not see spool that fast sir. More 3800ish. . He was not in wrong gear, 2nd gear his rpms would have been too high. He needed to break boost but this was just a fun run with 2 close friends.
"Full boost can be seen around 3600rpm"-AGP

Keep in mind thats full boost, I'm see full spool at like 4K and about 20psi at 3800ish.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
"Full boost can be seen around 3600rpm"-AGP

Keep in mind thats full boost, I'm see full spool at like 4K and about 20psi at 3800ish.
Either way, hopefully we can get this car running like it should. I give mad props to chase's car. For the mods done to it , its gets down and moves. Chase.... Spank that evo
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Deff, far from it's potential even on 23psi. THough it shouldn't be hard to get running 100%.

Happen to have a full mod list and what is it tuned on?
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Deff, far from it's potential even on 23psi. THough it shouldn't be hard to get running 100%.

Happen to have a full mod list and what is it tuned on?
Will be easy to fix now that I bought this car back agp s256 kit, 3" exahust, wally, 750s, dsp tuned. I will be adjusting the tune bc its pretty far off.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
Either way, hopefully we can get this car running like it should. I give mad props to chase's car. For the mods done to it , its gets down and moves. Chase.... Spank that evo
oh its happenin, just need more meth from beaver, i have about a cup of meth left.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
Ehh i run NT05s, i dont have a problem with spinning at all, they hook great, however since i do daily drive it, they wear pretty fast. I usually only get a couple months out of them.
nt05s dont really hook much better than street tires. i have them and still blow off the tires in 2nd and sometimes 3rd depending on the road and im probably only around 370wtq or so. if you making 400 wtq down low then you are definitely spinning 3rd which a problem lol...
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but what mods are on your car? I know a tune, and I read a ZZP down pipe, but what else?
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 12:05 AM
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Methanol, upper charge pipe, CrazySteve i/c, muffler delete.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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nt05s dont really hook much better than street tires. i have them and still blow off the tires in 2nd and sometimes 3rd depending on the road and im probably only around 370wtq or so. if you making 400 wtq down low then you are definitely spinning 3rd which a problem lol...
i have the dyno sheet, and i dont blow up my 235 nt05's.

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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
i have the dyno sheet, and i dont blow up my 235 nt05's. .
Pics of dyno or i call bs
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
Srt- s252 at 23 psi and full supporting mods

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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
Wagp s256 kit, 3" exahust, wally, 750s, dsp tuned.
Btw, Deff not full supporting mods to run that turbo to it's potential.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
Pics of dyno or i call bs
You witnessed it ******* lol
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