I want to know.

 

Trust me, it has less to do with accuracy of shifts and more with just loss of power from the transmission.

As far as the "5 cars"...I don't know about that part. There is more than the transmission type that determines a race (which you probably already know).

 

i have raced one v6 stang. and it was a VERY close race first gear was completely even. then when i hitsecond gear i was just slowly inching ahead he gave up when he was at the end of my door. we were going about 65.

 

yeah, i can take <2005 ones...but i've tried a new one, they are pretty freakin fast.(compared to the older ones.)

 

haha whats wrong with that...i work pizza hut delivery little kids LOVE my car

 

try 210 hp, 240 ft lbs and 3300 lbs. almost exactly the same power to weight as the 2.4 if im not mistaken, with a great deal more torque. s197 v6's=faster than a 2.4. just an fyi.

to the thread starter, it should be a pretty even race if it is a stick, but the autos in those sucked, so if its an auto you should win.

 

hey guy remember that big ole drive shaft and rear end, these numbers were takin directly from a mustang site:
2000-2004 v6 mustang rated at 190 hp
rwhp stock auto= 139
torque stock auto= 195
rwhp auto w/duals =145
torque auto w/duals = 195. somethin

heres another thread:
http://www.3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155546 just so you think im not confussed

2005+ 4.0 v6 stangs-

210 HP = 165-180MAX at the wheels

4.0 Liter V6)
0 to 60 mph: 6.9 sec
0 to 100 mph: 19.0 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 7.2 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.3 sec @ 91 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 113 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 189 ft
300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.79 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 19 mpg

ill race ya in my 2.4 auto, it would be VERY close

 

ok first of all, i don't know about the whp #'s of the older 3.8's, but stick 4.0's put about 190 to the wheels on average, and autos put about 170 to the wheels. those times you listed are for an auto and we have seen faster on a stock auto. the stick can run 15 flats stock and with the pony package (some gt suspension stuff and much stickier pzero nero's, there have been 14.8's. i have an mrt axle back that has shown 10+rwhp gains on the dyno from an independent source (look below). i will race any of you 2.4 guys in my area and i will tell you it is not going to be very close. i can definately see it being close between you and a late model stick 3.8 or you guys beating them, but stock for stock the 4.0 is a faster car than the 2.4 hell boss 244 on the mustangforums ran a 14.3 with just bolt ons and he is an AUTO.

http://www.v6john.com/Main/Performan...k/mrtdyno2.jpg


p.s. i've run very close (front bumper to door) with an ss/sc from a dig.

 

Finally, someone that has been there, done that, and knows what he is talking about.

P.S.
That is an impressive Dyno run!

 

there are 2.4's in here running 15.0- 15.3's i would love to see a video of a v6 running a 15 flat, one of my best friends has a 2005 V6 Auto coupe with CAI, exhaust, and i can nudge him out by fender up to 80, after that my vvt kicks in and i can pull away. and at 110 he shuts down, right when the cobalt starts stretching its legs, i love the new mustangs dont get me wrong, but it would be close, and as for the SS/SC, that dude didnt know how to drive. those cars can get LOW 14's stock.

 

they CAN, but it is more common to run mid 14's and some high 14's. with my mods, i should be running 14.7ish which is about what alot of ss/sc guys are running stock. I can't find a video of a 15 flat, but here are time slips i could find you and here is an auto running a 14.6 with minor bolt ons (exhaust, intake, tune).
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...1b014dc4c8.htm


here is another auto breaking into 14's with JUST a tune
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...fe6ecea8d7.htm

stock runs by chadlet on the mustang forums.

http://www.mustangforums.com/upfiles...2AA287D459.gif

http://www.mustangforums.com/upfiles...16AB36CFBD.gif


modern racer got a 15.0 in the 1/4 and a 6.6 to 60 with a stock 5 speed and if you read any reviews on the new stang you will definately hear about how horrible the rubber on the standard model is (stock tires are traction t/a's which ironically suck for traction). the pony package models have much better traction and i will try to find you some 14 sec timeslips of stock pony package manuals because i've seen them around, just have to find em.

and your vvt doesn't kick in at 80mph LOL. vvt should start at a specific rpm, not a specific speed. he shuts down at about 110 because the stock v6 is governed at 113 because the stock rubber sucks so much they aren't rated high enough to go past that. one of the things ford did to keep the car farther from gt performance and price.

 

No acutaly i work for a law firm, i have a desk and a computer which i work on a lot but i do deliver stuff too. So i guess serving cops and crack heads their summons to go to court is delivering then yea i guess i am, but not in the hot and fresh sence.

 

At least you backup your claims with proof. I think high 14s are a good time and thats with an auto. Can't wait to see what a manual can do!

 

unless you are taking some hot **** her summons. then it will be hot and fresh .

 

LMMFAO!!! hahaha!! the unmentionable intake

 

2000 Mustang Specs...

Size, liters/cu. in 3.8/232
Horsepower @ rpm 190 @ 5250
Torque (lb-ft) @ rpm 220 @ 2750
Curb Weight, lbs. 3069 (coupe) 3211 (convertable)
0-60 8.6 sec.
1/4 mile 16.5 sec. @ 85.5

2006 Cobalt LS Specs...

Base Engine Size: 2.2 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 145 @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 155 @ 4000 rpm
Curb Weight: 2991 lbs.
0-60 7.87
1/4 mile 16.18 @ 88.40

 

A V-6 Cobalt???? WTF are you talking about????

 

he was making fun of someone else... he wasn't being serious...

 

wow did you guys see the mod list for the red mustang running 14.7, it was alot more stuff than what you said, but i have to say im impressed with the 05+ mustang's numbers, i guess my friend just doesnt know how to drive, even tho its an auto.

 

in the first run (14.9something) he was running just a tune.

 

Notice the end of what I said?

V6 Cobalt "Now, if only these were made. "

 

Wow... the misinformation in this thread is amazing.


First, not only was my 2000 5-speed V6 under 4000lb, it's shipping weight was actually under 3000lb... about 2995lb.


16.5 @ 85... That's a crappy time even for an automatic.

My 2000 5-speed V6 ran a 15.5@90 when it was actually SLOWER than stock (heavier 17x8 rims), even with a crappy 2.331 60'. If it wasn't my first time to the track EVER and I could have launched it then like I can now, it would have been a couple tenths faster still.

So, for a recap... properly driven 5-speed 99-04 V6's run mid-15's or so, and auto's run low 16's. So, compare that to what properly driven 2.2's run, and you have your answer.

 

Take a look next time you are paying a speeding ticket there are some hot ass girls in the legal profession, i have a few lookers in my office....One is a GSX-R/Corvette owner, cant beat that.