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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Where's your dyno slip ? And just because all Winnipeg people use it doesn't mean it's not to high.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Oh yea it is.. Unless Vince has you at a god awful amount of timing.
Its not, But whatever gets your ignorant head to sleep at night.

about 30 cars Dyno'd the same day i did my dyno, all making around what the owners expected. Cars from 100 WHP all the way to 1200 WHP.

Even Dustin, your client will agree with me, Motion does a legit job running and opperating their Dyno.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Where's your dyno slip ? And just because all Winnipeg people use it doesn't mean it's not to high.
At my house in a filing cabnet, I don't carry it around in my wallet to show people because i really don't give a single **** what my car made on the Dyno. A dyno graph doesnt tell you how fast your car is, its a tool used for tuning.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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My ignorant head. Kid you have no clue. Like I stated if Vince has you at a high ass timing I can see it. But trifecta junk vs your 91 octane. It's not gonna happen. So therefore the dyno is reading high.

I'll explain, most of the time Vince uses 13-14* and runs a 12.0-11.8 afr on lnfs. And even with 26lbs 330iah is unlikely ...

So how much timing, boost are you running? What's your afr? Etc. I tune and dyno regularly and a lot of different dynos. So I see a wide variety of numbers.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
My ignorant head. Kid you have no clue. Like I stated if Vince has you at a high ass timing I can see it. But trifecta junk vs your 91 octane. It's not gonna happen. So therefore the dyno is reading high.

I'll explain, most of the time Vince uses 13-14* and runs a 12.0-11.8 afr on lnfs. And even with 26lbs 330iah is unlikely ...

So how much timing, boost are you running? What's your afr? Etc. I tune and dyno regularly and a lot of different dynos. So I see a wide variety of numbers.
Yes, your ignorant head. If anything in the world makes more power then your tune you automaticly discredit it.

Lets leave this bull **** bantering out of this thread.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Yes, your ignorant head. If anything in the world makes more power then your tune you automaticly discredit it.

Lets leave this bull **** bantering out of this thread.
Good idea
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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Sorry kid. But your shitty tuned car didn't make more then a lot of my ko4 cars lol. Get your **** straight.

Well if blue ever dynos I'm expecting 500s with how high your all dyno reads lmfao.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
Yes, your ignorant head. If anything in the world makes more power then your tune you automaticly discredit it.

Lets leave this bull **** bantering out of this thread.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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I'm sorry to say but I don't talk down to people who have realistic numbers Lol. Happy dynos will be happy dynos. It's just a fact. I dyno tune on many dynos. Many.... So I see the differences.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
I'm sorry to say but I don't talk down to people who have realistic numbers Lol. Happy dynos will be happy dynos. It's just a fact. I dyno tune on many dynos. Many.... So I see the differences.
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Yes, your ignorant head. If anything in the world makes more power then your tune you automaticly discredit it.

Lets leave this bull **** bantering out of this thread.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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James, have you tuned anyone near Kansas? I have a Trifecta car that might change your mind. Not every Trifecta tune is equal. Said car owner was very close with Vince so he got a good tune. Fastest Trifecta car I've ever seen.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Lmfao. Your right not every trifecta car is the same but not as high as his unless he has high ass timing.
And ask around I have guys everywhere.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Well this one holds 25psi and I could only barely pull him with brains tune. From. 60 I only got a 1/2 car on him. We were both using NLS too.

Never had that happen with other Trifecta cars.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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I think I have a tear.. You seem to be the one whining after your numbers were questioned. Realistically it's hard to obtain 330s safely with gasoline and since your using what 91* then it just makes it that harder. I've obtained 354 on gasoline on a ko4 car but that was 28lbs and 19-21* in places . If that explains anything. It was unsafe but the owner wanted it. Ghost is his name and e dynoed in several places and his average was still 350s
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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I've had a trifecta car beat one of mine but thats not the point. The car that got beat was aleiosants car which is on a 91* octane low boost tune so It was expected. And he don't nls and te trifecta did. I mean honestly I don't give a **** what's faster. I'm just pointing out unrealistic numbers unless timing and boost is there
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Well this one holds 25psi and I could only barely pull him with brains tune. From. 60 I only got a 1/2 car on him. We were both using NLS too.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
I think I have a tear.. You seem to be the one whining after your numbers were questioned. Realistically it's hard to obtain 330s safely with gasoline and since your using what 91* then it just makes it that harder. I've obtained 354 on gasoline on a ko4 car but that was 28lbs and 19-21* in places . If that explains anything. It was unsafe but the owner wanted it. Ghost is his name and e dynoed in several places and his average was still 350s
I don't see how this is so hard to expect. I made 20 whp less then your 28 lbs tune. I was also running 28 lbs of boost on the dyno. like we stated. It was not a safe tune, which is why i don't use it anymore.

So 20whp less for the same boost levels and little less timing? I don't find that hard to believe at all.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
I think I have a tear.. You seem to be the one whining after your numbers were questioned. Realistically it's hard to obtain 330s safely with gasoline and since your using what 91* then it just makes it that harder. I've obtained 354 on gasoline on a ko4 car but that was 28lbs and 19-21* in places . If that explains anything. It was unsafe but the owner wanted it. Ghost is his name and e dynoed in several places and his average was still 350s
The only one who seems to whine is you when other peoples numbers get brought up.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Im sorry but i see people all the time leaving trifecta tunes to get hp tuned but iv yet to see someone leave a good hp tuner for trifecta, and james name is plasted all over this forum in sigs so i think that speaks for its self.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Dart I don't talk **** about people's numbers unless they look off .
Dart and your numbers your expecting can be seen, I haven't said you couldn't see 380 on gasoline but in order to see higher you'll need a unsafe tune

Projekt I apologize, you never noted your boost (for what I seen) sorry.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Dart I don't talk **** about people's numbers unless they look off .
Dart and your numbers your expecting can be seen, I haven't said you couldn't see 380 on gasoline but in order to see higher you'll need a unsafe tune

Projekt I apologize, you never noted your boost (for what I seen) sorry.
I accept your apology James and i am also sorry. I never wanted to start a argument here. I was just showing that a car has made that WHP on that tune.

I have always said a good HPT tuner will make more power then a Trifecta tune. I told all my customers that since i started selling Trifecta tunes 3 years ago. However, with that said anyone can pick up HPT and call themselfs a tuner, You know this. You are good HPT tuner i have no questions about that, However there are only a few of you i would trust with my car and unfortuntaly none of you live remotely close to me.

If someone wants to go out and buy HPT and have you remote tune, that is the best way to get the most power out of their car. Ill never argue that, But its not for everyone. Which is why i will go to bat for Trifecta. its simply another option the cobalt community has for tuning.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Thanks. And sorry again.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Yay all friends again everyone get a beer and raise it high! Christ! That was intense for a bit.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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It happens. At the end of the day were still a community.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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this is the first time i have seen both parties apologize on CSS. are we maturing as a community??!... wait...i just saw another cobe thread.. nvm.
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