Rofl, who said anything about just stage being 305hp? lol

There is a little more there than stage 2, check the garage. It put down 270whp on the dyno which is 305 crank using GM's claimed 15% drivetrain loss.

So this race was 400hp V8 vs 300hp 4cyl.

 

Stage 2 with a pulley and exhaust and clutch and intake and god behind the wheel...is STILL a stage 2.

Using the stage 2 tune your not getting 300whp without nitrous or going into the motor and some dude asked if that was crank or whp, so I laughed

270 whp and you got torched that bad?? That must be the worlds fastest stock GTO

There is video of a 276 whp cobalt hanging with a 03 cobra pretty good and I KNOW you are all smoking some heavy duty drugs if you think the LS2 GTO is as fast as a 03-03 cobra.

 

Again, who said anything about a stage 2 tune. It's a custom tune. Read the whole thing man.

ROFL, please show me a 270whp Cobalt "hanging" with an 03 Cobra that is a real Cobra.

Don't talk **** dude, I don't see you racing any 6.0 GTOs
Considering you're so FNFAST. Like the other guy said, it must be the paint. lol

 

I'm fnfast enough to stroke your 270 whp car or the GTO. Thats a fact...no **** talking needed.

If it's not a stage 2 tune, stage 2 pulley, stage 2 anything...maybe your buddy slo sho should rename the video to something other than "stage 2 vs GTO"

PS...I will be back with the link for you of the cobra and intense stage 5 ion sweetheart. Give me a second.

 

Whoops

 

The 03-04 cobra is about equal or a drivers race with an 05-06 6 spd gto. The fastest I have seen a cobra go is 12.6 at 112 and for a gto 12.8 @ 110 and those are the absolute best. Average the numbers are within a error range to be considered the about the same with the edge going to the cobra. No modding is a different game, as many 03-04 cobras are modded. Pulley and tune and they are 450 rwhp. It takes a big cam and other supporting bolt ons for a gto to get to that number. Summing it up, a stock 05-06 gto and a stock 03-04 cobra are about equal, the difference in negligable in drivers and conditions.

As far as the stage 2 race and a stock GTO. All I have is mufflers and a drop in K&N which is maybe 10 hp and I raced Japeatr (here is his sig Engine:Flowmatched 60#s, GMPP Stg. 2 belt/2.8" pulley, SScartuning HPtune and ported throttle body, GMPP Dual Pass Option B, Injen CAI, Cu NGK -one step plugs, Innovative LC1 wideband w/AF gauge, New tranny, Trans mounts, Ingalls TD, dynamat firewallSuspension: Eibach Sportlines, DC strut brace, TF rear spring brace, Bridgestone Potenza RE960 pole position 225/40/18s, JBP CA Bushings, red calipersExterior:Ti*Black wheels, Black Halo/LED Projectors, GMPP pedals, SS front grille logo/deleted bowties, shorty ant., red LEDs,JBP fuse box, red hood/trunk shocks) which is what around 270 or so wheel hp? Anyways he can tell you, the results are similar to the race shown, maybe little less. 20-100+ maybe 2 cars? and 50-100+ 1-2 cars? Somewhere in that area. It was a mute point. His car is fast but has a little more to go to take a mostly stock GTO 6spd. As the speed climbs the pull hardens. nearing a 100 is where the gap widens. Looking at the vid again, the second race seems similar of what our race looked like until he let off. Even comparing power to weight the number favor the gto. Vid is legit IMHO. Tyler

BTW FNFAST, I read your other post to me. Thanks for the info 300+ whp is going to give me some trouble. I am curious how my car would do against one from a slow roll all the way above a hundred though where our cars are geared better. You have some impressive numbers there. How much more power can the motor handle? Are they like the 03-04 cobras and are built to handle crap loads with out going inside?

BTW CTCOBALTSS, I dig how your car looks. I am going to have to show my brother, he loves these cars.

Also, I do recon you will need the spray to stroke a 6spd GTO or a cobra though. If they do the same though, watch out! LS motors love spray, and it certainly does a body good in the cobra as well. Tyler

 

Thanks man. I would like to race the 6.0 GTO. I took a 03 cobra by about 2 lengths from 45-110 and lost to a C6 by half a car from 60-120. It would be fun thats for sure

No from a stock internal perspective I am about full tilt, which is part of the reason I am scared to get a different exhaust. I dynod 312WHP on HO mode with nitrous this last weekend. Thats alot of horsies for stock pistons

Agreed, thats why I said It isn't all that impressive for me to beat a GTO...I am pushing my stock motor and they are just humming around stock

 

I cant believe your exhaust hasnt exploded lol.
its restrictive as hell even making 250

 

and for the record I wasn't saying the vid wasn't legit...I was simply stating that like LS1 camaro's some are simply faster than others...he must have a fast ass GTO thats all.

I know right.

I'm starting to get some rattle down there haha...must...change....exhaust. Utnil then I just tell everyonen I leave it on to scavange haha

 

who cares your on juice ^ and make 300... gl with your axle's

 

You would care if you raced me

Axles?? Who needs axles? Axles are for *****'s.

Besides...for no one caring I sure had a lot of questions regarding my set up.

So I guess all in all...someone cares.

So now HP doesn't count if you have nitrous?? LOL give me a break dude...next your gonna tell me who cares because I have a supercharger.

and PS...as I explained in the prior forum...our axles are rated to 400hp according to GM...give them a call if you don't believe me. It's called learn to drive...when your car starts bucking like your sister on prom...get out of the gas.

 

your pretty cocky for a guy only making 300, sure you can race my h/c camaro if you want your ass handed to you. If our axle's are rated to 400 why do they sell upgraded axle's that are rated to 400 seems fishy

 

Hey FN, just saw your gallery. I can see why you miss that SS. That is clean!! What was done to it?

On a side not, I totally respect what nitrous does to a car and the power it makes. Its just not for me. A good friend of mine gave me this quote "nitrous is like steroids, any can shoot up and become big with minimal work; just like anyone can spray and go fast". Thats why I usually like to run the other person on and off the the bottle to get an idea. I tell you what though, that button is addicting!! Another favorite quote "I have no shame, i've sprayed a Scion". LOL, if your playin' your sprayin' right? Tyler

 

 

Im sure hes more worried about the pistons than the axles.
I bet he knows what they are rated to

 

^ I agree 100% +rep

 

so i guess no one hear has ever snapped a axle from to much traction.. it happens

 

No one said Tony's car had 300whp, he made 270whp, I made 345whp.

13.5 @ 101 eh? Did you cut a 1.8 60' on stock tires? Chances are you'd get beat fairly considerably as I've got you covered by .5 in ET and 9mph in trap (if that's even a legit time, but cruising this site has shown me that's probably not a legit time). My car is far from the fastest stock GTO on record, my ET is # 11 on the quickest stock GTO times on ls2gto.com.

+1 I ran a Cobra from a stop, outlaunched him by about a half car and it wasn't untill 140mph that he gained that half car back. Stuck right on my door.

 

Some people on this forum are just a little too "fan boy"-ish

 

haha and they arent on a vette forum?
pfft.

Every forum is biased to their own car.
I havent found 1 that isnt.

 

I beg to differ. I just slapped some magnaflows and even took off the ressonator. It doesn't sound as loud as the factory set-up. I do feel just a bit more throttle response, but as far as sound, the factory exhaust on the LS2 is already loud. Having owned both the LS2 and the LSJ, the LSJ would need quite a bit of work to completely drown out the exhaust of the LS2. I'd say with at least a 2.7" pulley or a larger supercharger, that might be enough to drown out the LS2's exhaust.

Oh and another thing about the Cobalt SS SII and the GTO racing where the Cobalt pulls, did no one else notice that the Camera operator in the GTO pointed the camera forward the whole time as if he was staging for the Cobalt to pull ahead? Most of the race videos I've seen the camera man points the video out towards the car they're racing, not ahead flanked towards the other person's lane. Still seems staged to me.

 

Anyone who calls the stock exhaust on a GTO quiet needs a hearing test.

My Mustang with a off road H-Pipe and Flowmasters is the only car I had that was louder than my GTO. Hell I am still trying to figure out how the GTO passed the EPA drive by test. They failed the single outlet WS6 exhaust in 1999 and that was much quieter.


And whats with all of the hype about videos? Look how many make the SS/SC look like ****, the GTO videos are no different. For some reason only the bad ones see the light of day.

 

Here's what mine sounds like slightly modded. I only reved to about 5K because I'm sure the neighbors don't want to hear a 6.7K redline rev at 10:00pm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=priHPnio9kE

 

True, but its expected on a Corvette forum. Its known for being GM's top performing sports car (Cobalt? ehh..not so much), and yes a lot of people who think there Corvettes are the best and are snobbish.

I just love it when I read threads of nearly stock Cobalt SS/SC's beating 04-06 GTO's.

Yup, this was GM's plan, lets bring back the GTO, stuff 400hp in it for 35k. THEN, build a 4cyl for 20k that beats the GTO.....right ...not a f*ing chance

 

It is fun to pick on Vettes though.

They are driven by only 2 kinds of people those who wanted americas best performer and those who had $70,000 to spend.

The later group will try to give me a run once and a while but performance driving is usually lacking from there skills.